August 14, 2011 Meeting

   1 [19:31] <BLUG_Fred> ok let's start!
   2 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> so I'll remind the agenda .
   3 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> - countdown translation effort
   4 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> - countdown promotion
   5 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> - Country page layout based on current Canadian efforts discussion
   6 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> - Team toolbox on wiki top banner
   7 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> - reach out effort to outside communities to promote and participate in SFD
   8 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> - Draft a list of questions for selected team leaders to be interviewed
   9 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> and put on SFD Blog
  10 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> - Ideas for boosting public mailing list discussions in the 3 current
  11 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> languages (es, pt and en)
  12 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> - Creating a series of 'event templates' which team leaders can use as a
  13 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> guide to make their own events, as well as build/upload slides easily
  14 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> reusable.
  15 [19:32] <BLUG_Fred> we need someone to take notes eventually
  16 [19:32] <bckurera> if no one is there I like to take notes :)
  17 [19:32] <bckurera> as usual :)
  18 [19:33] <BLUG_Fred> i have no objection ;-)
  19 [19:33] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: i didn't create the page yet, but it should be below
  20 [19:33] <BLUG_Fred> SfiBoard/mm/
  21 [19:33] <plhardy> nobody objects ?
  22 [19:33] <BLUG_Fred> oops
  23 [19:33] <bckurera> ok working on that
  24 [19:33] <BLUG_Fred> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm/
  25 [19:34] <BLUG_Fred> we usually review past action items but since people tend not to attend each week it's a bit complicated
  26 [19:34] <BLUG_Fred> last week notes are here:
  27 [19:34] <BLUG_Fred> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm/2011-08-07
  28 [19:34] <pockeylam> hi all
  29 [19:34] <bckurera> creating http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm/2011-08-14
  30 [19:34] <pockeylam> bckurera, thanks for taking notes!
  31 [19:34] <bckurera> its ok pockeylam
  32 [19:34] <BLUG_Fred> I had a AI (Action Item) outstanding which was to set up a moderator group
  33 [19:34] <BLUG_Fred> this is done
  34 [19:35] <plhardy> sorry ;_  i will have to leave soon _
  35 [19:35] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: no problem. thanks for helping out
  36 [19:35] <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, yes i will do it the coming week
  37 [19:35] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: we have also a countdown counter now
  38 [19:35] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: if you want to make a French version that'd be nice
  39 [19:35] <pockeylam> we should put the countdown in our webpates, i put it on my blog already
  40 [19:36] <bckurera> I like to hep with the moderator group
  41 [19:36] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CountDown/en source files are in the attachment of the page
  42 [19:36] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: ok.. let me find it and add you in
  43 [19:36] <BLUG_Fred> jza is in there already
  44 [19:37] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: what's your wiki ID again?
  45 [19:37] <bckurera> nice BLUG_Fred will form a nice team then for Wiki Moderators
  46 [19:37] <bckurera> Buddhika Kurera
  47 [19:38] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: ok added.
  48 [19:38] <bckurera> we can decorate the group with a nice name too
  49 [19:38] <plhardy> sorry, but what actualy contains these coutdown pages ?
  50 [19:38] <bckurera> nice BLUG_Fred
  51 [19:38] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: it's like what you see here: htp://blug.chinalug.org
  52 [19:38] <BLUG_Fred> oops
  53 [19:38] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: http://blug.chinalug.org
  54 [19:39] <bckurera> Wiki Ninjas :)
  55 [19:39] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: so the direct link to the source files is http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CountDown/en?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=countdown_source.tar.gz
  56 [19:39] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: and you get abour 40 svg files
  57 [19:39] <BLUG_Fred> 37 are the numbers of days remaining to SFD, one is "Today" and one is for once the event is past
  58 [19:40] <linuxmaster> is it possible to make js for embedding it to webpages?
  59 [19:40] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: we need 37 png files in <insert your language here> to make it work
  60 [19:40] <plhardy> BLUG_Fred: those are pictures no, do you expect me to translate them ?
  61 [19:40] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: svg are 'text files'
  62 [19:41] <plhardy> ok ok i can edit them with inkscape ?
  63 [19:41] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: with Inkscape you can change the text
  64 [19:41] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: yes
  65 [19:41] <plhardy> good
  66 [19:41] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: i think it might be easier to edit only one and change the numbers, than copy your translation in everyone of them
  67 [19:42] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: and once you have translated the svg you need to use the export function to get a png file (190x200)
  68 [19:42] <plhardy> perhaps the best is that i translate frist 1  then 2 ... then ... and this will allow to have non discontinuated count down in french
  69 [19:42] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: why would you want a jscript one?
  70 [19:42] <BLUG_Fred> it's easy to block and some people, especially in our field do not like Javascript
  71 [19:42] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: just to insert in pages
  72 [19:42] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: but you can just insert the image directly, no javascript
  73 [19:43] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: each day the image changes
  74 [19:43] <plhardy> do we already have all images ?
  75 [19:43] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: you don't need to do anything
  76 [19:43] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: yes, in English
  77 [19:43] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: where image wiill be situated?
  78 [19:43] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: the English counter is operational
  79 [19:43] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: images are under http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/countdown/
  80 [19:44] <plhardy> ok good, so i will start from 1 and french countdown will work continuously when my last translated image will match the right day...
  81 [19:44] <BLUG_Fred> then which image depends on what language you want (assuming it's available) and what timezone you are in
  82 [19:44] <plhardy> ok, i have to leave now
  83 [19:44] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: Do you have Russian version?
  84 [19:44] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: ok thanks
  85 [19:45] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: no
  86 [19:45] <bckurera> PLEASE DO mark any AI as #action
  87 [19:45] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: you want to make one?
  88 [19:45] <plhardy> bye everybody !
  89 [19:45] <bckurera> so that it is easy to find, sorry for disturbing :)
  90 [19:45] <BLUG_Fred> plhardy: 886
  91 [19:45] == plhardy [~nullix@AMontsouris-553-1-66-234.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #sfd-marketing []
  92 [19:45] <linuxmaster> Of course!
  93 [19:45] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: did you understand my explanations to plhardy?
  94 [19:46] <linuxmaster> yap
  95 [19:47] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: ok. so you just need to grab the source files, translated, export to png and then export those png underhttp://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CountDown/ru
  96 [19:47] <linuxmaster> linuxmaster: ок!
  97 [19:47] <BLUG_Fred> once this is done, email or ping me and I'll add Russian to the script
  98 [19:48] <BLUG_Fred> the UTC in the file name is for people to pick the right time zone. Actually there can be up to 2 days diffences depending on where you are in the world
  99 [19:48] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: and russian countdown image will be in fixed place for everyone?
 100 [19:48] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: yes
 101 [19:48] <BLUG_Fred> like for me in China, I use the English version
 102 [19:49] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: it is easy for you - You have one timezone... ^___^
 103 [19:49] <BLUG_Fred> so my timezone is UTC+8, the image link is http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/countdown/banner1-UTC+8-en.png
 104 [19:50] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: but for someone in Cambodia using English as well then his link will be :
 105 [19:50] <BLUG_Fred> http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/countdown/banner1-UTC+7-en.png
 106 [19:50] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: Do I need to translate "Software Freedom Day"
 107 [19:50] <linuxmaster> ?
 108 [19:50] <BLUG_Fred> banner1 is in case someone comes up with a different look for a language and badly wants it .. so we can have banne2
 109 [19:51] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: that's really up to you.
 110 [19:51] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: some people do translate it, some don't
 111 [19:51] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: we do in China
 112 [19:51] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: we might not in France
 113 [19:51] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: so you're the one who will make this decision
 114 [19:52] <linuxmaster> got it
 115 [19:52] <bckurera> its geat
 116 [19:52] <BLUG_Fred> any more question on the countdown?
 117 [19:52] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: a Sri Lankese version? ;-)
 118 [19:53] <bckurera> so AI for linuxmaster  -> just need to grab the source files, translated, export to png and then export those png underhttp://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CountDown/ru
 119 [19:53] <bckurera> i m thinking of a sri lankan version too :)
 120 [19:53] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: well feel free. you don't have to do it today. You can take 2-3 days, and then let me know once the files are up
 121 [19:53] <bckurera> shall I add #action under linuxmaster ??
 122 [19:54] <linuxmaster> bckurera: yap
 123 [19:54] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: yes you can I think
 124 [19:54] <BLUG_Fred> ;-)
 125 [19:54] <bckurera> sure BLUG_Fred
 126 [19:54] <linuxmaster> bckurera: affirmative
 127 [19:54] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: how many time zones do you have?
 128 [19:54] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: wow
 129 [19:54] <BLUG_Fred> (in Russia)
 130 [19:54] <linuxmaster> 8-9
 131 [19:55] <BLUG_Fred> wow.. that's.. a lot
 132 [19:55] <linuxmaster> I certainly do not know
 133 [19:55] <BLUG_Fred> well the good thing is that there are all supported
 134 [19:55] <bckurera> #action bckurera ,need to grab the source files, translated, export to png and then export those png underhttp://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CountDown/si
 135 [19:55] <linuxmaster> something about
 136 [19:55] <bckurera> sri lanka time zone is GMT+5.30
 137 [19:56] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: yes.. 9 time zones..
 138 [19:56] <pockeylam> - countdown promotion
 139 [19:56] <BLUG_Fred> next topic is countdown promotion
 140 [19:57] <BLUG_Fred> pockeylam: you were faster...
 141 [19:57] <linuxmaster> maybe timezones will be generated automatically?
 142 [19:57] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: yes it is
 143 [19:57] <BLUG_Fred> the almost 40 timezones
 144 [19:57] <bckurera> minutes are constantly updating at #link http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm/2011-08-14
 145 [19:57] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: so if a Russian guy is living in South America and want a Russian countdown it will work to
 146 [19:57] <linuxmaster> understand
 147 [19:58] <BLUG_Fred> so i emailed people i know to use the countdown and put on sites I maintain as well
 148 [19:58] <BLUG_Fred> i also ask them to do a version in their own language
 149 [19:59] <BLUG_Fred> so currently that means the Beijing LUG, the Shenzhen LUG, the Phnom Penh LUG, the Saigon LUG and a few individuals
 150 [19:59] <BLUG_Fred> BLUG, PPLUG, my blog, pockey's blog, and a Cambodia tech site have the countdown
 151 [19:59] <BLUG_Fred> I think I emailed also the FSFE about it
 152 [20:00] <BLUG_Fred> tomorrow I'll see how many translations we have and I'll make a nice countdown page on the www website for it
 153 [20:00] <BLUG_Fred> then blog post, and probably email post on announce and discuss
 154 [20:01] <BLUG_Fred> if all of us do the same it should help bring awareness I believe
 155 [20:01] <BLUG_Fred> jza is doing a great job on the Spanish front
 156 [20:02] <BLUG_Fred> I thought he would be here today, but i can email him re- the countdown
 157 [20:02] <BLUG_Fred> team sign up has been pretty slow the past week
 158 [20:02] <BLUG_Fred> no more idea?
 159 [20:03] <linuxmaster> We would had to make this countdown logo and concept in 2-3 month later... ^___^
 160 [20:03] <BLUG_Fred> well I guess a group AI would be to promote the countdown to people and groups we know and use it ourselves
 161 [20:03] <bckurera> please note it for the next time SFD 2012
 162 [20:03] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: earlier you mean?
 163 [20:03] <linuxmaster> earlier
 164 [20:03] <linuxmaster> sorry
 165 [20:04] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: likewise I also had to write the code to make it work for us
 166 [20:04] <bckurera> make this countdown logo and concept in 2-3 month earlier SFD << is this you mean linixmaster
 167 [20:04] <BLUG_Fred> not that it's a lot, just that I'm not a developer... so it takes me time and energy (to think about it;-))
 168 [20:04] <BLUG_Fred> anyway it is done now
 169 [20:04] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: how early do you think we should have a countdown?
 170 [20:04] <bckurera> yup BLUG_Fred next time no worries, great job anyway
 171 [20:04] <BLUG_Fred> isn't 3 months a bit long??
 172 [20:05] <bckurera> I vote for 2 months
 173 [20:05] <BLUG_Fred> well now the code is written, so it's ready for next year.. only need to make more PNG if we do it 3 months in advance
 174 [20:05] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: working sample? eemmm... a month before today.
 175 [20:05] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: i finish the code on Friday I think
 176 [20:06] <BLUG_Fred> ;-)
 177 [20:06] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: ok. I sure you do.
 178 [20:06] <BLUG_Fred> ok.. so let me take note of of this then.
 179 [20:06] <BLUG_Fred> pockeylam finish the graphics 50 days before SFD
 180 [20:06] <BLUG_Fred> just 12 days are missing then ;-)
 181 [20:09] <BLUG_Fred> (done.. took note)
 182 [20:10] <BLUG_Fred> next topic: country page layout
 183 [20:10] <BLUG_Fred> so I'm not sure if people did follow what the Canadian guy has been doing
 184 [20:11] <BLUG_Fred> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada
 185 [20:11] <BLUG_Fred> at the bottom of the page he is asking other people to help invite other organization to SFD
 186 [20:11] <BLUG_Fred> and that leads to a page where he(they) keep track of the work
 187 [20:12] <BLUG_Fred> they even provide email templates
 188 [20:12] <BLUG_Fred> I thought that was a very good idea
 189 [20:12] <BLUG_Fred> but maybe the Country page could emphasize a bit more that the way it's done now
 190 [20:12] <BLUG_Fred> has anyone here super skills with moinmoin markup?
 191 [20:13] <BLUG_Fred> 1... 2...
 192 [20:13] <BLUG_Fred> 3!
 193 [20:13] <BLUG_Fred> well seems not
 194 [20:14] <BLUG_Fred> i was thinking to try to get a 2 columns layout on that country page
 195 [20:14] <bckurera> not sure about super skills but can do :)
 196 [20:14] <BLUG_Fred> one side with the current content we have and the other side with a nice image and a similar encouraging message to visitors to help us out
 197 [20:14] <linuxmaster> I am not a webmaster or something
 198 [20:14] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: it's wiki markup
 199 [20:14] <BLUG_Fred> we could put that in a table. I'm not sure moinmoin can do better
 200 [20:15] <bckurera> BLUG_Fred you mean like in the add new page we need 2 columns?
 201 [20:15] <BLUG_Fred> tables are a bit hard to edit though (for the people who add a description on their country page
 202 [20:15] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: the country page is a template
 203 [20:15] <BLUG_Fred> we have currently 70+ country registered
 204 [20:16] <BLUG_Fred> changing the layout means changing the template to provide this layout and upgrading those 70 country pages
 205 [20:16] <bckurera> further many team do not update their team page, as a result no way to contact them in need :(
 206 [20:16] <BLUG_Fred> but i suppose a 'few' people do visit the country page to see if their is a team nearby
 207 [20:17] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: yes... that's also an issue.
 208 [20:17] <bckurera> next time we can enforce them to do it, I think wiki moderator team can focus on this
 209 [20:17] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: i was thinking to modify the wiki header for that to encourage them to do so (and email all the registered teams)
 210 [20:17] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: some do more than daily updates.. it s quite amazing
 211 [20:18] <bckurera> will do so BLUG_Fred
 212 [20:18] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: not everyone has a clear plan yet
 213 [20:19] <BLUG_Fred> so the idea is to add a kind of toolbox in that top wiki banner empty space to remind people to register on the map, update their team page and point to 1/2 important links
 214 [20:19] <BLUG_Fred> like the StartGuide or CreateYourTeamPage
 215 [20:19] <BLUG_Fred> (we're on the next topic as well)
 216 [20:20] <BLUG_Fred> do you guys see anything else that would be useful for organizers to point out?
 217 [20:20] <bckurera> adding their email to contact is a must
 218 [20:20] <bckurera> BLUG_Fred is this an AI?
 219 [20:20] <bckurera> currently there is 2 AI for me and linuxmaster
 220 [20:20] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: that's also important to let visitors (who may want to attend your event) to know how to get in touch with you
 221 [20:21] <BLUG_Fred> yes those 2 are AIs (the country page new layout and the team toolbox)
 222 [20:21] <linuxmaster> bckurera: so maybe IM-contact?
 223 [20:21] <BLUG_Fred> if no one take them, I have to
 224 [20:21] <bckurera> I m checking my country page there are teams I cannot find their contact ;)
 225 [20:22] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: yes IM can be good as well. I think IRC too. As long as it's possible for visitors to get in touch with them
 226 [20:22] <bckurera> Will put those AI to the list and see
 227 [20:22] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: i can get email addresses out of the wiki name
 228 [20:22] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: i get the wiki name by checking the page history
 229 [20:22] <bckurera> Sure I ll send you team names later
 230 [20:22] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: it seems  like they are mind
 231 [20:23] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: sometimes I was the one creating the team pages... they just created the city page
 232 [20:23] <BLUG_Fred> ;-)
 233 [20:23] <BLUG_Fred> but yes I can help out digging the contact
 234 [20:23] <bckurera> #link http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Sri%20Lanka/Ambalangoda
 235 [20:24] <bckurera> BLUG_Fred please do find the email for this I need to contact them and see if they need any help further
 236 [20:24] <bckurera> other Sri Lankan teams are already in contact
 237 [20:24] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: i emailed that team already when he registered.. he was nice and responsive
 238 [20:25] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: i talked with another guy from Sri Lanka and the experience was very very different ;-)
 239 [20:25] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: sometimes people are a bit lost with the wiki (or preparing an event).
 240 [20:26] <bckurera> most of ppl are familier with Wikimedia wiki, moimoin is quite new :)
 241 [20:26] <BLUG_Fred> well.. yes some major projects use moin moin though
 242 [20:27] <BLUG_Fred> Ubuntu does, GNOME does
 243 [20:27] <BLUG_Fred> but you're right.. mediawiki is what people tend to know a bit
 244 [20:27] <BLUG_Fred> so i take those 2 AI and we move on to the next topic
 245 [20:27] <BLUG_Fred> reach out effort to outside communities
 246 [20:28] <BLUG_Fred> like people who are not necessarily Linux users.
 247 [20:28] <bckurera> #topic Reach out effort to outside communities to promote and participate in SFD
 248 [20:28] <BLUG_Fred> I have some notes.. 2 sec
 249 [20:29] <BLUG_Fred> like people/groups like Mozilla, OOo/LO, CC, mediawiki, etc
 250 [20:29] <bckurera> #info Sri Lanka has 6 events so far registered with SFD 2011
 251 [20:29] <BLUG_Fred> i don't know everyone and I would need everyone to ping people they might know
 252 [20:29] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: only 5 on the map I think
 253 [20:30] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: i know one guy didn't want to register on the map
 254 [20:30] <bckurera> ahh with him its 5+1 = 6
 255 [20:30] <BLUG_Fred> so like bckurera emailed the Fedora contact he has, we should try to reach out to a wider audience
 256 [20:31] <BLUG_Fred> maybe wordpress, magento, php, etc
 257 [20:31] <bckurera> you are mentioning snavin; I know him
 258 [20:31] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: forgot his name.. he was not specially nice
 259 [20:31] <bckurera> BLUG_Fred we can email other major project about this
 260 [20:31] <verow> I know all Libre Office Open Office Oo4kids, Edu, etc.
 261 [20:31] <bckurera> we can include a note about SFD 2011
 262 [20:32] <BLUG_Fred> verow: hey!
 263 [20:32] <BLUG_Fred> verow: yes, that would be nice
 264 [20:32] <verow> I'm on their lists
 265 [20:32] <BLUG_Fred> I think the email short be short and strait to the point
 266 [20:32] <BLUG_Fred> SFD is coming up again, it's cool and we should participate
 267 [20:32] <verow> yes please BLUG_Fred for the mail
 268 [20:33] <BLUG_Fred> also there are banners and counters and stuff to help promote the celebration.. all already made
 269 [20:33] <BLUG_Fred> i think that's about it
 270 [20:33] <verow> I will send it with the one I'll send to the worldwide mail I'll send to lugs
 271 [20:33] <BLUG_Fred> verow: you want me to draft something?
 272 [20:33] <verow> I just need the annoucement
 273 [20:33] <BLUG_Fred> verow: ah.. in French?
 274 [20:33] <verow> even in English (I can translate into French)
 275 [20:33] <pockeylam> nice :)
 276 [20:34] <BLUG_Fred> AI: Fred to send a intro/announcement to verow to spam ALL the list she has access to
 277 [20:34] <BLUG_Fred> ;-)
 278 [20:34] <bckurera> #action EMail other FOSS projects about the SFD 2011 and promote it
 279 [20:34] <BLUG_Fred> lists with an s
 280 [20:34] <BLUG_Fred> i can share that draft with the marketing list
 281 [20:34] <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, we should send this intro/ announcement to the discuss and  marketing mailing list as well
 282 [20:35] <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, and ask them to contact their local communities and any foss communites they have contact with
 283 [20:35] <BLUG_Fred> pockeylam: good point, we can ask everybody to help to ping pepole
 284 [20:35] <BLUG_Fred> people
 285 [20:35] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: I have already sent information about SFD all over the Russian sites.
 286 [20:35] <bckurera> done in Sri Lanka too
 287 [20:35] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: thanks. I saw a few teams registering after our meeting last time
 288 [20:36] <pockeylam> bckurera, great!
 289 [20:36] <BLUG_Fred> but i think they are the 'usual' ones, they just had forgotten about it ;-)
 290 [20:36]  * BLUG_Fred rushes to the fridge to get a drink
 291 [20:36] <pockeylam> in fact, i tried to find contacts online to send them emails about sfd... but very low response
 292 [20:36] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: it is pitty
 293 [20:37] <pockeylam> i sent 50 emails , only 1 response
 294 [20:37] <pockeylam> they are not who i know
 295 [20:37] <verow> pockeylam we are in a holyday season :)
 296 [20:37] <pockeylam> but for those communities i know, 99% registered
 297 [20:37] <linuxmaster> pockeylam: vacs
 298 [20:37] <pockeylam> i think it's also because i don't know them :) they would consider my email spam?
 299 [20:37] <verow> might be !
 300 [20:38] <pockeylam> that's why we need your help, to contact those u know :)
 301 [20:38] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: i think it takes time for people to get organized and register
 302 [20:38] <BLUG_Fred> they seem to want to make sure they can do it first
 303 [20:38] <pockeylam> yeah, it's nice to see team leaders taking things seriously
 304 [20:38] <verow> don't worry, I'll also contact all people I know who come to JM2L
 305 [20:38] <pockeylam> verow, thanks!
 306 [20:38] <verow> you're very welcome pockeylam
 307 [20:39] <pockeylam> one more thing, fred and i are not so much a social network people
 308 [20:39] <verow> BLUG_Fred in the mail, we have to  insist to let them know that registering takes only a couple of minutes
 309 [20:39] <pockeylam> I don't use facebook, tweeter much
 310 [20:39] <BLUG_Fred> verow: ok noted
 311 [20:39] <pockeylam> verow, that would be great
 312 [20:39] <verow> I have no more account on Facebook
 313 [20:40] <pockeylam> anybody who identica, tweet?
 314 [20:40] <BLUG_Fred> oh we're on the next topic
 315 [20:40] <BLUG_Fred> Social network usage
 316 [20:40] <verow> but, I have twitter + status.net + identica + Xing + Viadeo + ...
 317 [20:40] <pockeylam> i m maintaining the software freedom day group / page in facebook, but i don't facebook much
 318 [20:40] <BLUG_Fred> yes.. we need social networks people...
 319 [20:41] <pockeylam> verow, cool!  twitter + status.net + identica + Xing + Viadeo are good enough
 320 [20:41] <verow> you will have a lot with twitters help from Nice Data Networks + ...
 321 [20:41] <pockeylam> verow, can you subscribe to the SFI blog and help to spread news with twitter, status.net, indentica, xing?
 322 [20:41] <bckurera> pockeylam can you add me to the facebook page as an admin
 323 [20:41] <verow> The announcement will be provided to Linux FR too
 324 [20:41] <bckurera> I think I can take care of that if you dislike fb :)
 325 [20:42] <verow> pockeylam I'll do my best
 326 [20:42] <BLUG_Fred> verow: cool. I posted last year to 2/3 French sites
 327 [20:42] <pockeylam> bckurera, sure, can you send me a message to remind me when i go to facebook?
 328 [20:42] <pockeylam> bckurera, so i add the right person as admin :)
 329 [20:42] <bckurera> BTW can you please send me the lin kI ll add it to the mm
 330 [20:42] <BLUG_Fred> verow: i need to check those again I think
 331 [20:43] <verow> I'll also spread it to groups such openmairie etc. which are "professional" groups
 332 [20:43] <pockeylam> verow, wow, cool!~
 333 [20:43] <bckurera> #link http://www.facebook.com/SoftwareFreedomDay
 334 [20:43] <BLUG_Fred> openmarie.. et ben!
 335 [20:44] <pockeylam> bckurera, i think so
 336 [20:44] <pockeylam> bckurera, it's a page?
 337 [20:44] <bckurera> pockeylam sent an fb message then
 338 [20:44] <pockeylam> bckurera, great
 339 [20:45] <bckurera> yes it is a page
 340 [20:45] <bckurera> with 339 users
 341 [20:45] <pockeylam> bckurera, let me check
 342 [20:46] <bckurera> cool
 343 [20:46] <bckurera> #link http://fossuser.lk/en/get-magazine/
 344 [20:46] <bckurera> FOSS USer magazine has a add for SFD at the last page
 345 [20:47] <bckurera> i m managing it so add it to june release :)
 346 [20:47] <bckurera> #link http://fossuser.lk/en/download.php?i=pdf6
 347 [20:48] <pockeylam> bckurera, i requested the created to add you as an admin
 348 [20:48] <pockeylam> bckurera, created = creator
 349 [20:48] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: thanks
 350 [20:49] <bckurera> great then
 351 [20:49] <bckurera> link is right?
 352 [20:49] <verow> ah! also spread to Linux Pratique
 353 [20:49] <verow> (Frenchspeaking magazine)
 354 [20:49] <BLUG_Fred> also it'd be nice to boost planet participation
 355 [20:50] <BLUG_Fred> doesn't anyone here blog?
 356 [20:50] <BLUG_Fred> are blogs for old farts only?
 357 [20:50] <linuxmaster> I have blog
 358 [20:50]  * BLUG_Fred thinking that I didn't make any post for a lng time
 359 [20:50] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: in Russian?
 360 [20:51] <linuxmaster> But it is as notes
 361 [20:51] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: Russian notes?
 362 [20:51] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: Of course in Russian
 363 [20:51] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: well.. of course of course...  ;-)
 364 [20:52] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: do you know 3 Russian SFD team leader or team participants who blog?
 365 [20:52] <BLUG_Fred> (including yourself)
 366 [20:52] <BLUG_Fred> blog need to talk about FOSS of course
 367 [20:52] <BLUG_Fred> and be in Russian
 368 [20:52] <BLUG_Fred> (most of the time)
 369 [20:53] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: if not, find 2 more and we'll make a Russian SFD planet
 370 [20:53] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: ;-)
 371 [20:53] <linuxmaster> I can inform them but I am not familiar with them
 372 [20:53] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: i can email them though.
 373 [20:53] <BLUG_Fred> ok. i'll start
 374 [20:53] <BLUG_Fred> AI: Fred to email the Russian SFD team to ask for Russian blogs addresses
 375 [20:54] <BLUG_Fred> so next topic: Other ideas to boost SFD registrations and encourage teams to update
 376 [20:54] <BLUG_Fred> their pages
 377 [20:54] <BLUG_Fred> any other idea?
 378 [20:54] <verow> maybe add fluxrss button on pages ?
 379 [20:54] <BLUG_Fred> verow: which pages?
 380 [20:55] <verow> registration one
 381 [20:55] <verow> to begin
 382 [20:55] <verow> + registered countries / areas to follow
 383 [20:55] <BLUG_Fred> verow: ouch
 384 [20:55] <verow> I know, it makes a horrible work
 385 [20:56] <BLUG_Fred> verow: the wiki, I'm not sure you can rss feed from it
 386 [20:56] <verow> so that's why I said "maybe"
 387 [20:56] <verow> ok
 388 [20:56] <verow> forget
 389 [20:56] <BLUG_Fred> verow: you need to have an account and subscribe to pages
 390 [20:56] <BLUG_Fred> verow: that works..
 391 [20:56] <verow> forget, please forget
 392 [20:56] <BLUG_Fred> verow: the map page, maybe we could do something about it
 393 [20:56]  * verow demande à genoux même
 394 [20:56] <BLUG_Fred> haha
 395 [20:57] == CYFiVE1 [~cyfive@host-2-60-246-134.pppoe.omsknet.ru] has joined #sfd-marketing
 396 [20:57] <BLUG_Fred> verow: en plus, in the wiki the feature to subscribe to a page is very hidden
 397 [20:57] <BLUG_Fred> verow: only highly motivated people can figure out how to do it
 398 [20:58] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: welcome back
 399 [20:58] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: do you blog?
 400 [20:58] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE1: : do you blog?
 401 [20:58] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE1: do you blog?
 402 [20:58] <BLUG_Fred> oops.. sorry
 403 [20:58]  * verow faut arrêter le café
 404 [20:59] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: maybe he it out
 405 [20:59] <linuxmaster> he is out
 406 [20:59] <BLUG_Fred> verow: it's a software designed by geeks for geeks (moinmoin)
 407 [20:59] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: ah.. ok
 408 [20:59] == CYFiVE1 [~cyfive@host-2-60-246-134.pppoe.omsknet.ru] has quit [Client Quit]
 409 [20:59] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: ah.. you're right: he is out!
 410 [20:59] == CYFiVE [~cyfive@host-2-60-28-10.pppoe.omsknet.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
 411 [20:59] <BLUG_Fred> next item on the agenda
 412 [21:00] == CYFiVE [~cyfive@host-2-60-246-134.pppoe.omsknet.ru] has joined #sfd-marketing
 413 [21:00] <BLUG_Fred> I wished mike would be here, but we can surely do that without him
 414 [21:00] <BLUG_Fred> Draft a list of questions for selected team leaders to be interviewed
 415 [21:00] <BLUG_Fred> and put on SFD Blog
 416 [21:00] <BLUG_Fred> I think 10 questions should be enough
 417 [21:00] <BLUG_Fred> and we might adapt based on who we're asking...
 418 [21:01] <CYFiVE> BLUG_Fred: yes, i have blog, but small trafic
 419 [21:01] <BLUG_Fred> i think someone doing SFD for the 1st and who is 17 (he contacted me) and someone who has done it since 2004 have very different insights
 420 [21:01] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: hey! in Russian?
 421 [21:02] <CYFiVE> BLUG_Fred: yes
 422 [21:02] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: and about FOSS?
 423 [21:02] <CYFiVE> BLUG_Fred: this is personal blog about it
 424 [21:03] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: ok.. that's good
 425 [21:05] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: I don't think your WIki ID is on this page right?
 426 [21:05] <CYFiVE> we have LUG forum too, we can promote on this
 427 [21:05] <BLUG_Fred> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingGroup
 428 [21:05] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: that's a great idea! yes, you should
 429 [21:05] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: what's your blog URL?
 430 [21:05] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: i have just created a Planet URL wiki page
 431 [21:05] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/planet-ru
 432 [21:05] <linuxmaster> linuxmaster: What Wiki ID?
 433 [21:06] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: your wiki login ID
 434 [21:06] <CYFiVE> BLUG_Fred: http://cyfive.ru
 435 [21:06] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: thanks. Can you type your name in Russian here as well as a nick if you have one (or CYFiVE is your nick?)
 436 [21:07] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: no... I have AlTarakanoff
 437 [21:07] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: ok.. let me add you
 438 [21:07] <linuxmaster> linuxmaster: ok
 439 [21:07] <CYFiVE> BLUG_Fred: Stanislav Emets a.k.a CYFiVE
 440 [21:08] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: you don't want the name to appear in Russian on the PLanet?
 441 [21:08] <linuxmaster> Al Tarakanoff aka alexandrorodrigez
 442 [21:08] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: URL?
 443 [21:08] <linuxmaster> www.linuxmasterz.ru
 444 [21:09] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: that's your Russian name: Обо мне ?
 445 [21:09] <BLUG_Fred> or that's "about me"?
 446 [21:09] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: it is "about me'  ^____^
 447 [21:09] <BLUG_Fred> oops..
 448 [21:10] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: thanks ;-)
 449 [21:10] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: no rss feed on your blog?
 450 [21:10] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: soon you can put a RUssian countdown counter on your blog ;-)
 451 [21:11] <linuxmaster> CYFiVE: As far as I do it
 452 [21:11] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: found it.. sorry
 453 [21:11] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: http://linuxmasterz.ru/?feed=rss2
 454 [21:12] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE, linuxmaster: do you have hackergotchis?
 455 [21:12] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: emmm... no. I do not even know what is this.
 456 [21:13] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: http://planet.gnome.org/heads/
 457 [21:13] <BLUG_Fred> or.. more encyclopedic form: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackergotchi
 458 [21:13] <BLUG_Fred> i can do one for you guys
 459 [21:14] <BLUG_Fred> but i will need full face photo
 460 [21:14] <bckurera> like i
 461 [21:14] <BLUG_Fred> CYFiVE: the photo on your blog is cut at the top... if you want to use this one, I'll need the missing bit as well ;-)
 462 [21:14] <bckurera> it
 463 [21:14] <BLUG_Fred> verow: tu blogues pas toi?
 464 [21:15] == CYFiVE [~cyfive@host-2-60-246-134.pppoe.omsknet.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
 465 [21:15] <BLUG_Fred> we lost CYFiVE again
 466 [21:15] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: do you blog in English and about FOSS?
 467 [21:17] <BLUG_Fred> well linuxmaster we now have 2 Russian feeds , we just need one more and we can have a Russian planet
 468 [21:17] <bckurera> BLUG_Fred I have a local blog
 469 [21:17] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: which means we'll need to start translating the site in Russian a little...
 470 [21:17] <BLUG_Fred> local?
 471 [21:18] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: I can make my head pic by myself in GIMP... Thank you!
 472 [21:18] <bckurera> #link http://bckurera.wordpress.com
 473 [21:18] <BLUG_Fred> only appears on your local network?
 474 [21:18] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: ok great then
 475 [21:18] <verow> oh yes I have a blog ! http://xx-geek.org/
 476 [21:18] <bckurera> yes
 477 [21:18] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: i have added you in the marketing group
 478 [21:18] <bckurera> its in sinhalese
 479 [21:18] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: normal you can modify all the Planet files
 480 [21:18] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: including the Russian one
 481 [21:18] <linuxmaster> BLUG_Fred: I will be gentle..
 482 [21:19] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: so make your hackergotchi and upload it in that page
 483 [21:19] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: and then add the link to it
 484 [21:19] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: there are sample in the other planet pages
 485 [21:19] <BLUG_Fred> linuxmaster: any problem, just ping me
 486 [21:20] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: sinhalese.. well that means we need to find 2 other SFD team leaders or organizers who blog as well, and add sinhalese as a language to the SFD site
 487 [21:20] <BLUG_Fred> verow: in French I suppose?
 488 [21:20] <bckurera> yup, why 2 ?
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 490 [21:21] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: because we don't make planet for 1 blog
 491 [21:21] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: minimum is 3 people
 492 [21:21] <bckurera> hikiz ok ok :)
 493 [21:21] <bckurera> i ll try
 494 [21:22] <BLUG_Fred> all those blogs that could have a lovely SFD banner or countdown counter
 495 [21:22] <verow> yes BLUG_Fred my blog is in French
 496 [21:22] <verow> But I intend to make an English one
 497 [21:23] <BLUG_Fred> verow: a shame.. i'm sure lots of people would enjoy reading it in English. pockeylam would
 498 [21:23] <BLUG_Fred> ;-)
 499 [21:23] <BLUG_Fred> verow: ah nice..
 500 [21:23] <BLUG_Fred> verow: at the same time.. 'simple' would be hard to post in English
 501 [21:23]  * verow défi ?
 502 [21:23] <BLUG_Fred> lol
 503 [21:24] <verow> lol
 504 [21:24] <BLUG_Fred> no no
 505 [21:24] <verow> I can try
 506 [21:24] <BLUG_Fred> verow: page non trouvée: http://xx-geek.org/hommage
 507 [21:24] <BLUG_Fred> verow: so same, we need more than 1 blog to start a planet in one specific language
 508 [21:25] <BLUG_Fred> verow: and considering the number of French teams at this stage...
 509 [21:25] <BLUG_Fred> verow: enfin y a les caenais
 510 [21:25] <BLUG_Fred> caenois
 511 [21:25] <BLUG_Fred> well the team from Caen
 512 [21:27] <BLUG_Fred> I think we should stop the meeting here and take the last item for next week
 513 [21:27] <BLUG_Fred> i'm starting to fall
 514 [21:27] <BLUG_Fred> (and it's a long topic as well)
 515 [21:27] <BLUG_Fred> verow: i'll start a French page for the planet as well .. and let's see how it goes
 516 [21:28] <verow> BLUG_Fred Hommage will become the title for the following one
 517 [21:28] <verow> http://xx-geek.org/lolo-des-iles
 518 [21:28] <verow> same for others...
 519 [21:29] <verow> It was my first test CMS "Drupal" 7
 520 [21:29] <BLUG_Fred> verow: ahh.. and how do you find it?
 521 [21:29] <verow> I 'm addicted to Drupal
 522 [21:30] <verow> I have all asso sites made with it
 523 [21:30] <BLUG_Fred> verow: i see.. strange addiction
 524 [21:30] <verow> better than beer for the Health :-P
 525 [21:30] <BLUG_Fred> are you sure? ;-)
 526 [21:30] <BLUG_Fred> verow: do you have a hackergotchi?
 527 [21:31] <verow> hackergotchi ???
 528 [21:31] <BLUG_Fred> verow: linuxazur.org est en rade?
 529 [21:32] <BLUG_Fred> verow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackergotchi
 530 [21:32] <verow> BLUG_Fred chez moi linux azur fonctionne
 531 [21:32] <BLUG_Fred> verow: bon.. pas chez moi
 532 [21:32] <bckurera> BLUG_Fred need to walk out
 533 [21:33] <verow> pour test http://www.linux-azur.org/atelier/quest-ce-quil-y-dans-mon-pc
 534 [21:33] <BLUG_Fred> page blanche, et à travers omzeil pareil..
 535 [21:33] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: ok
 536 [21:33] <bckurera> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm/2011-08-14
 537 [21:33] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: i think we're done for today
 538 [21:33] <bckurera> mm is up and please add the link and any info
 539 [21:33] <bckurera> c u guys
 540 [21:33] <bckurera> bye bye
 541 [21:33] <BLUG_Fred> bckurera: thanks a lot
 542 [21:33] <BLUG_Fred> verow: ah oui ca ca marche
 543 [21:33] <verow> bye bye bckurera
 544 [21:33] <verow> ah cool BLUG_Fred !