April 17, 2011 Meeting
Agenda
- Date of open registration (5 mins)
- Contributors recruitment, ideas and communication channels (20 mins)
- Web team
- Documentation team (create new contents for website / wiki)
- Localization team
- Graphic design team (design web banners / count down,etc.)
- Press release team (prepare and promote press release)
- Sponsorship / partnership team (to help to get local sponsors / partners)
- Admin team e.g. writing meeting notes of the regular meeting
- Others
- Goodies selection (based on survey results) for 2011 (5 mins)
- Regular date / time of our upcoming bi-weekly meetings (5 mins
- The following items moved to next meeting:
- Promotion / marketing ideas (including SFD marketing initiatives)
- Competition prizes (based on survey results) for 2011 (5 mins)
Attending
- Fred
- Pockey
- annuyen
- buldo
- cdrigby
- kjcole
- leandronunes_br
- verow
- murphnj
- mike_uk
- lumjjb
- rjian
Timing
- UTC 1400 - UTC 1600 (2 hours as members were available)
Action items
Our next meeting: 1st May Sunday UTC 1400 and <cdrigby> will take note for next meeting (thanks cdrigby)
LeandroNunes_br to create a wiki page and then everybody to work on a list of press network and help to spread the word for SFD (write down the press titles and who's responsible for that contact. fred suggested that it shouldn't be publicly available then, if they are people names and emails
- Fred to work on script of registration of sfd teams
Fred to create a mailing list for localization & graphic design teams and then call for helpers
- pockey to quote for iron-labels for tshirts
- mike_uk to proof read English texts of start-guide
- For logo 2011, Verow, lumjjb to replace that font and offer a replacement current of next week
Fred to add a translate help link (with reference to http://translate.google.com/translate_tools) for registration page
Fred to continue talking to Novell and Red Hat (and other distro) about shipping OpenSuse CDs and other cds
- Art team to work on 2011 goodies design and banners / count down once the logo is finalized
- We target to open registration in May (once announcement, logistics, goodies items, registration scripts are ready)
- cdrigby and verrow to subscribe to the webber list
please subscribe to http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/webbers if you are interested in contributing to web related stuff
- Localization team to work on localizing the contents of 1) generic website 2) startguide 3) others
- The Webbers to explore meetbot to take notes in the future
Everybody to improve and complete the start-guide (http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide)
- Everybody to help to explore local sponsors for SFI if there is any
Everybody: If anybody wants to have admin right to edit marketing committee wiki pages, please send us your wiki user name to be added to the MarketingGroup
- Everybody to think about competition prizes and suggest in next meeting
- Everybody to update their action items by email before next meeting to save time
Meeting notes
- We discussed about registration open date. Everybody is okay to open registration in May (once announcement, logistics, goodies items, registration scripts are ready)
- Web team (webbers)
- cdrigby and verrow offered to help on web stuff (c.david.rigby(at)gmail.com), will subscribe to the webber mailing list as next step
- Localization team:
- Fred mentioned that for localization there are 3 areas: standard website, wiki guides and then extra materials for marketing and slides
- the priority should be: standard website first, then wiki guide, then extra materials for marketing and slides
- for start guide, mike_uk offered to proof read English texts, once it's proof read, we can announce it to the localization team to localize it
- Annguyen takes care of Vietnamese by end of May
For registration, everybody agreed to keep English as main language, and it is suggested to add a reference translate link e.g. http://translate.google.com/translate_tools
- verow will help with french (vero.rustines(at)gmail.com)
- buldo will help with italian (andrea.libralato(at)gmail.com)
- leandronunes_br can help with Portuguese and Spanish (LNUNIX(at)gmail.com)
- Art team:
- verow can help with doc and graphic
- lumjjb(at)gmail.com will help with graphic
- leandronunes_br can help with graphic design
- Fred will create graphic design mailing list and invite members to join as next step
we showed logo of 2011 http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Artwork/ProposedLogo
- In general members like the logo it's simple. While f is not very clear though
- Action Item would be to replace that font and offer a replacement current of next week (action by Verow, lumjjb)
- we can consider to have two versions, one long one short (sfd), one square and one rectangle
- once the logo is ready, we will start to work on goodies design and banners design
- Admin team:
- For admin, we'll need someone to coordinate meetings and take notes, upload log. It is suggested to have one person volunteer for each meeting, we will recruit upcoming meeting helper end of each meeting
- Documentation team:
- we will keep using marketing mailing, tasks related to contents for website, wiki, slides, etc
cdrigb offered to help <c.david.rigby(at)gmail.com>
- Sponsorship team:
- if anybody have local sponsors who would love to sponsor SFD on a global level, please let us know
- Amount is 1k or 2k USD up depends on the organization (we accept smaller amount from free software communities)
- another things which has interested sponsors in the past was to provide speakers, besides it's hard to predict how big will be the local event closer to the offered speaker. we can work on it
- Press release team:
- PR should cover import announcements in the life of an SFD event
- including: write up, localize, spread the word
- we need to build a better press network as next step
- Goodies
- Fred suggested that competition prizes should be announce is registration PR, as that could motivate people as well
- Fred have started discussing with Novell as well to get openSUSE DVDs
- Tshirts are the most wanted items, next is stickers
- Pockey also suggested to send out banner, a few members are interested in it
- Mike suggested to ship cds to those countries that have slow internet access, next step is to think of the logistic
- We should promote our pages of artworks so local teams can produce more goodies by themselves
- Mike suggested: iron on transfers of the T-shirt designs, teams could get T-shirts and iron on the design, pockey will check with suppliers
- Kjcole suggested: a template for small business cards (with a space for local info) or the like, to be inserted into CD slip covers, or just handed out.
- so goodies priority is based on team feedbacks and necessity: 1. tshirts 2. CDs then.. depends on how much fund we raise
- it seems that members joined the meeting think pins are a nice item to have. fred suggested: if we can, pins or button badges with "Please ask me about Software Freedom" would be nice
- Competition prizes
- we moved competition prizes discussion to next meeting, everybody think of the prizes and suggest in the upcoming meeting
- Marketing ideas:
- we moved this item to next meeting due to lack of time
- Others:
- We talked about the URL - softwarefreedomday.org, mike asked if we should use sf-day.org, fred mentioned that we were just trying to avoid confusion, try not to end up with many web services all over the place, the only reason mailing lists are still on sf-day is because no one managed to move them to softwarefreedomday.org. so we will keep using softwarefreedomday.org
- We discussed about our meeting time:
- we will keep the same timing (Sunday: UTC 1400) every other week. (next meeting will be on May 1st) please everybody update their own action items by emails before each meetings
- Notes taking process:
Step 1: meeting notes written here : http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm/<date>e.g.2011-04-17 (that will automatically link logged in http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm
- Step 2: put the web log in the page (name of the file should be with reference to : 20110417.weechatlog (in weechatlog format)
- Step 3: email the marketing-list of the meeting notes
- webbers to explore meetbot to take note in the future
Log
1 Apr 17 22:03:12 <BLUG_Fred> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm/2011-04-17
2 Apr 17 22:03:14 <BLUG_Fred> here is the agenda
3 Apr 17 22:03:19 <BLUG_Fred> let
4 Apr 17 22:03:24 <BLUG_Fred> ś start our meeting then
5 Apr 17 22:03:53 <BLUG_Fred> Agenda 1: Date of open registration (5 mins)
6 Apr 17 22:04:15 <Mike_UK> As early as possible?
7 Apr 17 22:04:25 <BLUG_Fred> so this is pockey here, fred is still helping me to rescue my system...
8 Apr 17 22:04:37 <BLUG_Fred> what about end of May?
9 Apr 17 22:04:46 <verow> ok
10 Apr 17 22:04:50 <BLUG_Fred> we usually open registration in May
11 Apr 17 22:05:11 <cdrigby> end May +1
12 Apr 17 22:05:12 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: registration of event participants or cities ??
13 Apr 17 22:05:24 <annguyen> LeandroNunes_br: Cities (teams), I believe
14 Apr 17 22:05:31 <BLUG_Fred> event organizers, SFD team leaders registration
15 Apr 17 22:05:50 <LeandroNunes_br> ok, right... I think ASAP :)
16 Apr 17 22:05:51 <BLUG_Fred> fred mentioned there is some works to do for the registration script
17 Apr 17 22:06:01 <BLUG_Fred> and fred fixed the utf8 support
18 Apr 17 22:06:09 <Mike_UK> asap +1
19 Apr 17 22:06:14 <annguyen> I see
20 Apr 17 22:06:26 <BLUG_Fred> and fred is doing some work for people to be able to edit the record
21 Apr 17 22:06:35 <verow> great
22 Apr 17 22:06:36 <annguyen> record?
23 Apr 17 22:06:39 <BLUG_Fred> so it will take some time to work on the script
24 Apr 17 22:06:46 <BLUG_Fred> annguyen: yes, the information submitted
25 Apr 17 22:06:54 <annguyen> ah, okay
26 Apr 17 22:07:05 <Mike_UK> We are thinking about SFD 2011 in Manchester.
27 Apr 17 22:07:06 <BLUG_Fred> one of the issue is that when people registered in May, they dont know exactly the venue or some info
28 Apr 17 22:07:10 <Mike_UK> already
29 Apr 17 22:07:14 <BLUG_Fred> so itś good for them to be able to edit the info later
30 Apr 17 22:07:25 <verow> yep
31 Apr 17 22:07:27 <annguyen> ah, nice :)
32 Apr 17 22:07:29 <annguyen> yup
33 Apr 17 22:07:51 <BLUG_Fred> so we will open the registration in May :)
34 Apr 17 22:07:51 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, agreed. Although Singapore has already secured the venue (had a problem for 2010, lesson learned)
35 Apr 17 22:08:06 <BLUG_Fred> any other comment on this item? :)
36 Apr 17 22:08:17 <lumjjb> yea, I just checked with the venue sponsor
37 Apr 17 22:08:18 <lumjjb> we've got the place secured :)
38 Apr 17 22:08:18 <Mike_UK> And it'll help to stop things clashing. People are already thinking about events that far ahead.
39 Apr 17 22:08:26 <BLUG_Fred> lumjjb: cdrigby nice!
40 Apr 17 22:08:38 <cdrigby> Thx
41 Apr 17 22:08:39 <annguyen> I think if the team leaders can edit the submitted information latter
42 Apr 17 22:08:59 <Mike_UK> Why not open asap?
43 Apr 17 22:09:03 <BLUG_Fred> annguyen: we will have more accurate information ;-)
44 Apr 17 22:09:08 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: because the script is not ready
45 Apr 17 22:09:14 <annguyen> so making sure about venue may not be very critical, imho
46 Apr 17 22:09:16 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, OK.
47 Apr 17 22:09:39 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: i think 2 more weeks , the script should be ready :)
48 Apr 17 22:09:48 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: we will keep you guys posted
49 Apr 17 22:10:10 <BLUG_Fred> lets move to the other agenda item? Contributors recruitment, ideas and communication channels
50 Apr 17 22:10:40 <BLUG_Fred> we have a lot of things :) we need you guys to involve
51 Apr 17 22:10:42 <annguyen> however, can we set a deadline for the teamleaders to update their team's information
52 Apr 17 22:10:43 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, but asap means as soon as possible so opening will be possible when the script is done. :)
53 Apr 17 22:10:43 <kjcole> Each year I have to rent table space for our event, and registration for that's not open until June. But I don't expect problems. (I expect it will be the "Same Bat-Time, Same Bat-Channel" as past years.) So May works for me.
54 Apr 17 22:10:43 <lumjjb> Agreeable on May
55 Apr 17 22:10:46 <annguyen> ok, agree on May (and after the script is done)
56 Apr 17 22:11:05 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: before open registration, there are a lot of things to get ready :)
57 Apr 17 22:11:31 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: so as soon as the script is ready, also the marketing, announcement, website, logistic of goodies and so on
58 Apr 17 22:11:54 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: that
59 Apr 17 22:11:55 <Mike_UK> Open registration as soon as you can. Do not delay it for the sake of dealing it, only for things to be completed.
60 Apr 17 22:12:03 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: that s why itś good we talk about it now
61 Apr 17 22:12:08 <Mike_UK> delaying.
62 Apr 17 22:12:17 <kjcole> Regular tweets on Twitter and identi.ca, nicely spaced in time to catch the most eyes...
63 Apr 17 22:12:22 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: yeah, we are working on it now
64 Apr 17 22:12:26 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: with you :)
65 Apr 17 22:12:43 <BLUG_Fred> right now, most of the work in sfi is done by Fred and Pockey
66 Apr 17 22:13:01 <BLUG_Fred> there are a lot of area , we believe the community can help
67 Apr 17 22:13:10 <BLUG_Fred> Web team
68 Apr 17 22:13:10 <BLUG_Fred> Documentation team (create new contents for website / wiki)
69 Apr 17 22:13:10 <BLUG_Fred> Localization team
70 Apr 17 22:13:10 <BLUG_Fred> Graphic design team (design web banners / count down,etc.)
71 Apr 17 22:13:10 <BLUG_Fred> Press release team (prepare and promote press release)
72 Apr 17 22:13:10 <BLUG_Fred> Sponsorship / partnership team (to help to get local sponsors / partners)
73 Apr 17 22:13:10 <BLUG_Fred> Admin team e.g. writing meeting notes of the regular meeting
74 Apr 17 22:13:10 <BLUG_Fred> Others
75 Apr 17 22:13:59 <Mike_UK> Post to LUGs.
76 Apr 17 22:13:59 <LeandroNunes_br> but May is fine... and early enought to the local leader
77 Apr 17 22:13:59 * pockeylam (~pockeylam@119.121.79.235) has joined #sfd-marketing
78 Apr 17 22:13:59 <annguyen> we only need wiki account to contribute?
79 Apr 17 22:13:59 <kjcole> Who are we trying to reach? The "unwashed masses" or the "choir"? I assume the former more than the later. So, venues for the less technical: Local newspapers and radio shows. Community bulletin boards and coffee houses.
80 Apr 17 22:13:59 * Pockey has quit (Quit: Leaving)
81 Apr 17 22:14:28 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: i don't think opening registration 6 months early brings much benefit. Why do you feel we should open for the sake of opening?
82 Apr 17 22:14:46 <BLUG_Fred> 2010 was an extreme case
83 Apr 17 22:15:22 <kjcole> Local politicians.
84 Apr 17 22:15:38 <pockeylam> pockeylam, i m back to my machine :)
85 Apr 17 22:15:38 <cdrigby> all, through end Apr 2011 I am very busy, but would be happy to help w/ Docs & Press release, or whatever, after.
86 Apr 17 22:15:38 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, its only 5 months now, May will be 4 months. We've already had someone consider booking an event over our SFD.
87 Apr 17 22:15:46 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, the more time to prepare the better.
88 Apr 17 22:15:53 <LeandroNunes_br> kjcole: here in Porto Alegre, we've event tracks for technical and non-technical people. Basic courses an lightning-talks
89 Apr 17 22:15:58 <annguyen> I may spend time for Documentation team
90 Apr 17 22:16:06 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: registering on the sfd website doesn't prevent you from preparing stuff
91 Apr 17 22:16:07 <lumjjb> on our side, for advertising we've got: newspapers, online adverts, local forums and the national library calendar <- since our event is going to be held there
92 Apr 17 22:16:27 <BLUG_Fred> they are issues with the current registration script and we're trying to fix those
93 Apr 17 22:16:45 <BLUG_Fred> but so we all agree end of May is acceptable right?
94 Apr 17 22:16:47 <pockeylam> we can all prepare our events before registering, no?
95 Apr 17 22:16:47 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, no. But then one doesn't have to use the SFD site at all.
96 Apr 17 22:16:47 <pockeylam> lumjjb, nice, advertising is very important
97 Apr 17 22:16:47 <annguyen> pockeylam: if the registration is in May, I think it's kinda difficult
98 Apr 17 22:16:53 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: yes
99 Apr 17 22:17:27 <Mike_UK> May is acceptable.
100 Apr 17 22:17:27 <Mike_UK> to me.
101 Apr 17 22:17:27 <cdrigby> In Singapore our sponsors have helped us buy FB & Google ads. Very effective.
102 Apr 17 22:17:29 <Mike_UK> What agenda item are we on?
103 Apr 17 22:17:31 <LeandroNunes_br> yes
104 Apr 17 22:17:33 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: you have a very black & white view of things. Unfortunately life is seldom black or white
105 Apr 17 22:17:37 <cdrigby> Blug_Fred, end May yes
106 Apr 17 22:17:42 <LeandroNunes_br> Mike_UK: the 2nd
107 Apr 17 22:17:50 <pockeylam> annguyen, difficult?
108 Apr 17 22:17:54 <BLUG_Fred> ok so registration date is fixed: end of May
109 Apr 17 22:18:26 <kjcole> As much as is plausible, material should be reusable from year to year: I printed out quite a few copies of each of the sfd10-free-for-* flyers, as well as creating a local sfd10-free-for-DC-MD-and-VA with local info. I still have copies left.
110 Apr 17 22:18:40 <pockeylam> as said earlier, in order to open registration, not only the script, there are a lot of things to do and get ready
111 Apr 17 22:18:53 <annguyen> pockeylam: we only have about 1 month until the registration
112 Apr 17 22:19:01 <kjcole> So, on those at least, I want to minimize the use of fixed dates, version numbers, etc.
113 Apr 17 22:19:15 <LeandroNunes_br> kjcole: I thinks it's fine to have some localized versions of this material when we open the registration, what about it ?
114 Apr 17 22:19:18 <pockeylam> e.g. announcement (press release), website content, some graphic for goodies for 2011...
115 Apr 17 22:19:44 <pockeylam> annguyen, it's doable :)
116 Apr 17 22:19:49 <BLUG_Fred> yes, localization would be a nice to have
117 Apr 17 22:20:28 <BLUG_Fred> i think Spanish would be the first priority based on traffic, but it see that portugueuse people are a bit more dynamic
118 Apr 17 22:20:46 <lumjjb> Since someone mentioned about the talks and stuff. We got ideas to do an 'unconference' for this year, but we're still deciding on whether to adopt the conventional talks or give it a shot.
119 Apr 17 22:20:46 <annguyen> pockeylam: excuse me, you meant the international SFD or the local ones?
120 Apr 17 22:20:46 <pockeylam> annguyen, international sfd tasks
121 Apr 17 22:20:46 <annguyen> ah, got it. agree
122 Apr 17 22:20:46 <pockeylam> annguyen, we open registration, the date of SFD won't change....
123 Apr 17 22:20:46 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: could you add an action item to the Localization team, to take care of these material too ?
124 Apr 17 22:20:49 <BLUG_Fred> of course anyone with time on their hands and willing to do localization for their own country is welcome
125 Apr 17 22:20:57 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, i m the one taking note today
126 Apr 17 22:21:11 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: we do not have a localization team per se
127 Apr 17 22:21:15 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, who will be responsible for this action item?
128 Apr 17 22:21:16 <LeandroNunes_br> ok! right :)
129 Apr 17 22:21:16 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, are you chairing this meeting?
130 Apr 17 22:21:16 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, and when?
131 Apr 17 22:21:32 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, fred is chairing
132 Apr 17 22:21:35 <LeandroNunes_br> for Portuguese localization, it's me
133 Apr 17 22:21:40 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, since he is back now
134 Apr 17 22:21:48 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, we need someone to take notes, i will take notes this time
135 Apr 17 22:21:53 <annguyen> Vietnamese Localiztion, before the ed of may
136 Apr 17 22:21:55 <kjcole> LeandroNunes_br: Localized stuff is great. I'm suggesting that as much as plausible, handouts that are put on the wiki for download by several groups, should be reusable across several years.
137 Apr 17 22:21:57 <annguyen> *end
138 Apr 17 22:22:02 <pockeylam> annguyen, cool, noted
139 Apr 17 22:22:19 <BLUG_Fred> for localization there are 3 areas: standard website, wiki guides and then extra materials for marketing and slides
140 Apr 17 22:22:30 <annguyen> btw, pockeylam is taking note for us?
141 Apr 17 22:22:42 <pockeylam> annguyen, yes
142 Apr 17 22:22:50 <BLUG_Fred> it's a lot of work and we could prioritize and do it in phases
143 Apr 17 22:23:18 <BLUG_Fred> for documentation I feel the startup guide is pretty complete, how do you guys feel?
144 Apr 17 22:23:24 <pockeylam> the priority should be: standard website first, then wiki guide, then extra materials for marketing and slides
145 Apr 17 22:23:34 <Mike_UK> I am willing to proof read English texts.
146 Apr 17 22:23:39 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: thanks
147 Apr 17 22:23:41 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, nice
148 Apr 17 22:23:49 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, noted as action item
149 Apr 17 22:24:24 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, once it's proof read, we can announce our localization team to localize in their language?
150 Apr 17 22:24:24 <BLUG_Fred> my main issue with localizing everything is that w(SFI) might not be able to handle some parts (like goodies liaison with a team who speak only Portuguese or Russian)
151 Apr 17 22:24:25 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, start up guide is good.
152 Apr 17 22:25:03 <BLUG_Fred> so i am thinking registration should remain in English. What do you guys think?
153 Apr 17 22:25:24 * annguyen agree,
154 Apr 17 22:25:25 <LeandroNunes_br> i agree
155 Apr 17 22:25:26 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, register in English +1
156 Apr 17 22:25:31 <BLUG_Fred> ok thanks.
157 Apr 17 22:25:40 * kjcole agree
158 Apr 17 22:25:41 <lumjjb> agreed
159 Apr 17 22:26:08 <lumjjb> there's always a handy translator around :)
160 Apr 17 22:26:08 * Mike_UK abstain myself!
161 Apr 17 22:26:11 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: A link to Google translate worth adding?
162 Apr 17 22:26:11 <BLUG_Fred> is anyone interested in helping on the web stuff (html, css, scripting)?
163 Apr 17 22:26:13 <LeandroNunes_br> I dont remember this form to registration, but if we make it clean and simple, english will not be an issue
164 Apr 17 22:26:19 <pockeylam> any other member here can do localization here? you don't need to do it only by yourself, you can go back to find volunteers from your local community :)
165 Apr 17 22:26:30 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: that's a good idea
166 Apr 17 22:26:44 <BLUG_Fred> pockeylam: can you add that we'll add a google translate link on registration page?
167 Apr 17 22:27:03 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: though we'll get an email from Richard Stallman about linking to non free software
168 Apr 17 22:27:04 <Mike_UK> Can you do a diagram or screenshots to help with non-English reading people?
169 Apr 17 22:27:11 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, added already
170 Apr 17 22:27:23 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: haha :)
171 Apr 17 22:27:27 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, what do u mean?
172 Apr 17 22:27:27 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: haha
173 Apr 17 22:27:30 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: well I can't, at least not in the languages I don't speak/write
174 Apr 17 22:27:50 <Mike_UK> What I mean, can it be explained visually.
175 Apr 17 22:27:51 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, there is a howto register made by Fred last year, but we need someone to localize the howto, maybe
176 Apr 17 22:28:05 <BLUG_Fred> another idea that I have been contemplating would be to offload localized registration to "local committees" like we do in China
177 Apr 17 22:28:10 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: Sadly, we live in the world we have. ;-)
178 Apr 17 22:28:10 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, its
179 Apr 17 22:28:16 <Mike_UK> Like in a cartoon or video or something.
180 Apr 17 22:28:25 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, we need volunteers to do that :)
181 Apr 17 22:28:29 <BLUG_Fred> but we need to be able to provide an api so registrations are received by the main site too
182 Apr 17 22:29:00 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: we get a lot of heat on those issues.. and some others
183 Apr 17 22:29:08 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: so you know
184 Apr 17 22:29:15 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, I can help w/ web stuff after 1 May (need to get work done on Singapore sites first)
185 Apr 17 22:29:17 <lumjjb> hey guys, im not sure if this is applicable
186 Apr 17 22:29:17 <lumjjb> http://translate.google.com/translate_tools
187 Apr 17 22:29:24 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: so you're thinking of something without text?
188 Apr 17 22:29:25 <Mike_UK> What stages are there to the registration process? Its not that complicated?
189 Apr 17 22:29:29 <pockeylam> cdrigby, your email address?
190 Apr 17 22:29:39 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: ok. we have a webbers mailing list
191 Apr 17 22:29:51 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, as a backup.
192 Apr 17 22:29:51 <pockeylam> cdrigby, we will follow up with u , we will create a web committee
193 Apr 17 22:30:00 <cdrigby> c.david.rigby@gmail.com
194 Apr 17 22:30:00 <cdrigby> OK
195 Apr 17 22:30:07 <pockeylam> cdrigby, nice
196 Apr 17 22:30:07 <LeandroNunes_br> We can provide a simple localized step-by-step
197 Apr 17 22:30:08 <cdrigby> m'pleasure
198 Apr 17 22:30:17 <verow> good idea LeandroNunes_br
199 Apr 17 22:30:18 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, like a screen shot of each stage with example details entered.
200 Apr 17 22:30:44 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/webbers
201 Apr 17 22:30:52 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: ok here is the deal / the choices
202 Apr 17 22:31:03 <pockeylam> anybody else here interested to help with web stuff?
203 Apr 17 22:31:11 <BLUG_Fred> I think we have a few important things that are all connected
204 Apr 17 22:31:16 <BLUG_Fred> the mailing list is too quiet
205 Apr 17 22:31:26 <BLUG_Fred> we need to offer a forum based discussion place
206 Apr 17 22:31:31 <verow> I am
207 Apr 17 22:31:49 <BLUG_Fred> so we have to merge 3 software authentication
208 Apr 17 22:31:57 <BLUG_Fred> the wiki, the registration and the forum
209 Apr 17 22:32:03 <BLUG_Fred> in a perfect world
210 Apr 17 22:32:04 <pockeylam> please subscribe to http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/webbers if you are interested in contributing to web related stuff
211 Apr 17 22:32:04 <LeandroNunes_br> which mailing list ?
212 Apr 17 22:32:04 <verow> pockeylam sorry, I'am interested in
213 Apr 17 22:32:09 <BLUG_Fred> sf-discuss
214 Apr 17 22:32:12 <pockeylam> verow, sure, please subscribe the mailing list webbers
215 Apr 17 22:32:35 <BLUG_Fred> maybe we could create a mailing list for translations as well
216 Apr 17 22:32:48 <verow> yes please BLUG_Fred
217 Apr 17 22:33:00 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: so I have been looking at how I could integrate the registration script with moinmoin
218 Apr 17 22:33:03 <pockeylam> for localization, annguyen offered to help with vietnamese, anybody else here interested in localization?
219 Apr 17 22:33:03 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, good idea, i think the same
220 Apr 17 22:33:06 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, Subscription req. sent
221 Apr 17 22:33:12 <BLUG_Fred> since everyone has a moinmoin account, that would be the easiest
222 Apr 17 22:33:17 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, AI: fred to create a mailing list for localization
223 Apr 17 22:33:19 <verow> I can help in French and English
224 Apr 17 22:33:20 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: and this is where I am at the moment
225 Apr 17 22:33:22 <BLUG_Fred> pockeylam: thanks
226 Apr 17 22:33:28 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, and then we call for localization team members
227 Apr 17 22:33:29 <buldo> I can help with Italian
228 Apr 17 22:33:37 <kjcole> https://translations.launchpad.net/
229 Apr 17 22:33:44 <verow> Iam able to read Spanish and Italian but not writing
230 Apr 17 22:33:46 <pockeylam> buldo :)
231 Apr 17 22:33:59 <LeandroNunes_br> I can help with Portuguese and Spanish
232 Apr 17 22:34:25 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: if I can't do that, we can have a stand alone reg module for the registration and then the wiki account
233 Apr 17 22:34:43 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, understand the delay now. :)
234 Apr 17 22:34:55 <BLUG_Fred> still if we install a forum, it would be highly preferred that it uses the same account as either the wiki or the reg script
235 Apr 17 22:35:03 <annguyen> English, French (verow), Italian (buldo), Portuguese & Spanish (LeandroNunes_br), Vietnamese (annguyen)
236 Apr 17 22:35:21 <pockeylam> buldo, verow, cool, we will invite you to subscribe to a mailing list for localization in the coming week
237 Apr 17 22:35:23 <verow> I am supposed to translate this conversation into French for our friends so please don't talk too much :-D
238 Apr 17 22:35:27 * rjian (~rjian@92.48.109.94) has joined #sfd-marketing
239 Apr 17 22:35:33 <BLUG_Fred> i think in general fora are more accessible to less tech-savvvy people
240 Apr 17 22:36:14 <rjian> hello pockeylam its me rj sorry im late
241 Apr 17 22:36:14 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, verow buldo your email address please
242 Apr 17 22:36:20 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: you can subscribe to the webbers list if you're interested to follow on the decisions and solutions we pick at the end
243 Apr 17 22:36:22 <pockeylam> rjian, hi, it's okay
244 Apr 17 22:36:30 <LeandroNunes_br> LNUNIX@gmail.com
245 Apr 17 22:36:36 <buldo> andrea.libralato@gmail.com
246 Apr 17 22:36:57 <verow> vero.rustines@gmail.org
247 Apr 17 22:36:59 <BLUG_Fred> as a side note I am very happy to see so many people willing to do stuff - you have no idea! ;-)
248 Apr 17 22:37:00 <annguyen> tasks left: documentation, press release, sponsorship, admin, graphic design
249 Apr 17 22:37:01 * Mike_UK (~mike@dsl-217-155-233-6.zen.co.uk) has left #sfd-marketing ("Leaving")
250 Apr 17 22:37:02 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, buldo great, i will invite you to the mailing list once it's created
251 Apr 17 22:37:10 <BLUG_Fred> graphic team
252 Apr 17 22:37:14 <lumjjb> for graphics design
253 Apr 17 22:37:16 <annguyen> an.nguyen.foss@gmail.com
254 Apr 17 22:37:28 <BLUG_Fred> we actually have a draft new logo for SFD
255 Apr 17 22:37:29 <verow> I can help for doc and graphism
256 Apr 17 22:37:30 <pockeylam> lumjjb, nice :)
257 Apr 17 22:37:41 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: nice
258 Apr 17 22:37:46 <LeandroNunes_br> great news :D
259 Apr 17 22:37:51 <cdrigby> docs also can, if needed. Indeed, it's a speciality {;->
260 Apr 17 22:37:51 <lumjjb> that's great
261 Apr 17 22:37:51 * Mike_UK (~mike@dsl-217-155-233-6.zen.co.uk) has joined #sfd-marketing
262 Apr 17 22:38:08 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: wlecome back
263 Apr 17 22:38:20 <BLUG_Fred> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Artwork/ProposedLogo
264 Apr 17 22:38:25 <lumjjb> well on our side, we've got 1 of the local design companies doing up our site + graphics stuff
265 Apr 17 22:38:25 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, :) Oops.
266 Apr 17 22:38:41 <BLUG_Fred> we need something more 'squary'
267 Apr 17 22:38:43 <rjian> i can help with the online promotion :)
268 Apr 17 22:38:47 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, subscribing to webbers
269 Apr 17 22:38:48 <lumjjb> we could probably help out in creating some graphics
270 Apr 17 22:38:55 <BLUG_Fred> the usual logo that changes every year and is so long is not convenient
271 Apr 17 22:38:58 <BLUG_Fred> and it's not a logo
272 Apr 17 22:39:08 <LeandroNunes_br> So simple and clean... perfect!
273 Apr 17 22:39:08 <pockeylam> lumjjb, so you can help with graphic designs for sfi then :)
274 Apr 17 22:39:08 <pockeylam> lumjjb, your email address please?
275 Apr 17 22:39:10 <lumjjb> lumjjb@gmail.com
276 Apr 17 22:39:13 <BLUG_Fred> we have issues with some people asking for a logo when we gave that old one
277 Apr 17 22:39:30 <pockeylam> lumjjb, welcome to the graphic club :)
278 Apr 17 22:39:42 <BLUG_Fred> our 'elements' have been the sun and the hill since the beginning
279 Apr 17 22:39:46 <lumjjb> :)
280 Apr 17 22:39:48 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: only one concern in the logo
281 Apr 17 22:39:56 <BLUG_Fred> so if you don't like this logo let us know..
282 Apr 17 22:39:57 <pockeylam> verow, lumjjb, welcome to join the graphic design club, i will be in the graphic club as well, we will design the goodies, banners ,e tc
283 Apr 17 22:40:06 <LeandroNunes_br> the first 'F' of SoFtware... seems a 'g'
284 Apr 17 22:40:17 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: i agree
285 Apr 17 22:40:19 <murphnj> The "f" in software looks oddly cursive. Might it cause problems?
286 Apr 17 22:40:25 <BLUG_Fred> we need to find a handwriting font that is open
287 Apr 17 22:40:32 <kjcole> Not wild about the mockups... Readability troubles.
288 Apr 17 22:40:36 <annguyen> LeandroNunes_br: option 1
289 Apr 17 22:40:44 <verow> andika basic is a good font for people having troubles
290 Apr 17 22:40:45 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: the font problem right?
291 Apr 17 22:40:51 * annguyen think option 2 is the best
292 Apr 17 22:41:13 <BLUG_Fred> ok so I'm looking for verow font
293 Apr 17 22:41:32 <BLUG_Fred> i think the Action Item would be to replace that font and offer a replacement current of next week
294 Apr 17 22:41:59 <BLUG_Fred> verow: it's not very fancy... ;-)
295 Apr 17 22:51:10 <Mike_UK> Like the image but not the font.
296 Apr 17 22:51:10 <pockeylam> there are three options there
297 Apr 17 22:51:10 <murphnj> I like option 2 as well.
298 Apr 17 22:51:10 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: Yeah. Agree w/ LeandroNunes_br about "g" and w/ others about cursive readability.
299 Apr 17 22:51:10 <verow> the image is friendly
300 Apr 17 22:51:10 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, noted
301 Apr 17 22:51:10 <cdrigby> agree w/ Mike_UK - image good, font bad.
302 Apr 17 22:51:27 <lumjjb> option 2 font looks the best
303 Apr 17 22:51:27 <annguyen> the image is very nice, :-)
304 Apr 17 22:51:27 <buldo> I like opt 1 & 2
305 Apr 17 22:51:27 <lumjjb> hmm
306 Apr 17 22:51:27 <lumjjb> im curious though
307 Apr 17 22:51:27 <LeandroNunes_br> Can I propose another font options ?
308 Apr 17 22:51:27 <pockeylam> i can modify the option 1 to make the f look more like a f
309 Apr 17 22:51:27 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, sure
310 Apr 17 22:51:27 <verow> BLUG_Fred it's a compliment to say it is friendly :)
311 Apr 17 22:51:27 <kjcole> Image is fine. (Not sure how it suggests anything other than the "day" part of software freedom day, but I've got no problem w/ it. Similar to years past.)
312 Apr 17 22:51:27 <pockeylam> so we keep the logo, and people are welcome to down the svg file and play with the fonts
313 Apr 17 22:51:27 <verow> sounds great pockeylam
314 Apr 17 22:51:27 <LeandroNunes_br> the logo image is fantastic, simple to make in all stuff
315 Apr 17 22:51:27 <Mike_UK> kjcole, the bright new day of Software Freedom!
316 Apr 17 22:51:27 <pockeylam> there is a svg file if you go to attach file
317 Apr 17 22:51:27 <lumjjb> if we would like to reuse as many things as possible (i.e. posters and such), should be have a 'fixed' logo. Then we can reuse and make new posters every year.
318 Apr 17 22:51:27 <pockeylam> verow, thanks ;)
319 Apr 17 22:51:27 <LeandroNunes_br> Here we're planning to make a lot of mugs
320 Apr 17 22:51:27 <cdrigby> pokeylam: OK. We need to do that anyway to create SFD (Singapore) text
321 Apr 17 22:51:27 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, nice
322 Apr 17 22:51:27 <verow> pockeylam the only trouble is the long text
323 Apr 17 22:51:27 * BLUG_Fred2 (c2ce3f5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.206.63.93) has joined #sfd-marketing
324 Apr 17 22:51:27 <BLUG_Fred2> gee my xchat connection is lagging like hell
325 Apr 17 22:51:27 <verow> it should maybe be only SFD
326 Apr 17 22:51:27 <pockeylam> verow, yes.. otherwise we can try to use SFD?
327 Apr 17 22:51:27 <kjcole> Mike_UK: Needs a little silhouette of a penguin. ;-)
328 Apr 17 22:51:27 <verow> +1 kjcole
329 Apr 17 22:51:27 <pockeylam> so once the logos are ready (with your fonts) please send email to update us so we can pick one
330 Apr 17 22:51:27 <lumjjb> :)
331 Apr 17 22:51:27 <murphnj> verow: Are enough people familiar with SFD to make using just initals clear?
332 Apr 17 22:52:30 <pockeylam> Action Item would be to replace that font and offer a replacement current of next week (action by Verow, lumjjb)
333 Apr 17 22:52:30 <kjcole> lumjjb: +1 (see my earlier comments.)
334 Apr 17 22:52:30 <annguyen> kjcole: imho, sfd is about software freedom in general
335 Apr 17 22:52:30 <BLUG_Fred2> yes I think we should keep the full wording if possible
336 Apr 17 22:52:30 <pockeylam> verow, we can have two versions?
337 Apr 17 22:52:30 <pockeylam> verow, one for sfd and one for software freedom day
338 Apr 17 22:52:30 <verow> no murphnj you're right but we never send the logo without a text no?
339 Apr 17 22:52:30 <cdrigby> murphnj, all: I also prefer the full name, if possible.
340 Apr 17 22:52:30 <BLUG_Fred2> but yes having a long version and a short one is a good compromise
341 Apr 17 22:52:30 <Mike_UK> I agree we should keep the full wording.
342 Apr 17 22:52:32 <BLUG_Fred2> and people pick the one they like
343 Apr 17 22:52:32 <lumjjb> cdrigby: agreed on full name
344 Apr 17 22:52:32 <pockeylam> verow, one square, one horizontal
345 Apr 17 22:52:32 <verow> ok
346 Apr 17 22:52:32 <Mike_UK> URL is good too.
347 Apr 17 22:52:32 <BLUG_Fred2> square or boxy rectangle...
348 Apr 17 22:52:32 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, hehe our url is very long :)
349 Apr 17 22:52:32 <verow> yes Mike_UK
350 Apr 17 22:52:32 <BLUG_Fred2> Mike_UK: good point.. but our url is 1 mile long ;-)
351 Apr 17 22:52:32 <Mike_UK> :)
352 Apr 17 22:52:32 <BLUG_Fred2> shall we move to admin team/stuff
353 Apr 17 22:52:32 <verow> yes please BLUG_Fred
354 Apr 17 22:52:33 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, yes, please
355 Apr 17 22:52:33 <kjcole> annguyen: OK, a silhouette of a GNU then.
356 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> it seems today's schedule worked not bad for most of us
357 Apr 17 22:52:33 <Mike_UK> You've got sf-day.org
358 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> we do, so we're trying not to use it
359 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> that was a 'last year' plan
360 Apr 17 22:52:33 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred: this time is good for me, most weeks.
361 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> or last 2 year plan
362 Apr 17 22:52:33 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred2, not long enough for you? :)
363 Apr 17 22:52:33 <pockeylam> lumjjb, verow once the logo is ready, we will start to work on goodies design and banners design?
364 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> haha
365 Apr 17 22:52:33 <LeandroNunes_br> I think two versions: one horizontal format (with the name at right of the logo)
366 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> Mike_UK: just to avoid confusion I think
367 Apr 17 22:52:33 <verow> yes pockeylam
368 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> we were ending up with many web services all over the place
369 Apr 17 22:52:33 <LeandroNunes_br> and one vertical, with the name below of the logo
370 Apr 17 22:52:33 <verow> LeandroNunes_br ok :)
371 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> and so at the end someone suggested we should just keep the long version and try to phase out anything with sf-day
372 Apr 17 22:52:33 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, verow and lumjjb will come up with some options for us :)
373 Apr 17 22:52:33 <LeandroNunes_br> yes, i'm doing that
374 Apr 17 22:52:33 <verow> all right pockeylam
375 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> the only reason mailing lists are still on sf-day is because no one managed to move them to softwarefreedomday.org
376 Apr 17 22:52:33 <cdrigby> all, re. graphics: if the files are avail as SVG, they are easy enough to modify for different site layouts, RTL text, etc.
377 Apr 17 22:52:33 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred2, ok.
378 Apr 17 22:52:33 <lumjjb> sounds good. the plan for the graphics side is to 1. add in the silhouette. 2. Logo with words at btm/right/withURL
379 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> cdrigby: yes all svg
380 Apr 17 22:52:33 <lumjjb> as a rough guideline
381 Apr 17 22:52:33 <verow> I work on svg files
382 Apr 17 22:52:33 <cdrigby> ok
383 Apr 17 22:52:33 <cdrigby> ok
384 Apr 17 22:52:33 <kjcole> QR code, anyone? They seem to be increasingly popular with the smartphone set, and qrencoder is an easy get from a repository...
385 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> in general while SFI has communicated very little about their/our decision there were always "good" reasons for things
386 Apr 17 22:52:33 <LeandroNunes_br> so, which is the correct mailing list to discuss about graphics ?
387 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> kjcole: cherry on the cake?
388 Apr 17 22:52:33 <lumjjb> QRcode is popular in japan, but not in Singapore it seems
389 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> kjcole: though if you feel like taking this as your project, please
390 Apr 17 22:52:33 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, you would like to join graphic design club?
391 Apr 17 22:52:33 <LeandroNunes_br> Here in brazil is getting more popular
392 Apr 17 22:52:33 <BLUG_Fred2> i personally think it'd be great
393 Apr 17 22:52:33 <verow> QR code are very much used in France
394 Apr 17 22:52:33 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, we will create graphic design mailing list
395 Apr 17 22:52:34 <BLUG_Fred2> pockeylam: ok we can if needed
396 Apr 17 22:52:34 <verow> but I don't get a clue how to make that
397 Apr 17 22:52:34 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, i will invite you lumjjb and verow to join
398 Apr 17 22:52:34 <LeandroNunes_br> ok, right
399 Apr 17 22:52:34 <lumjjb> pockeylam: Alright
400 Apr 17 22:52:34 <BLUG_Fred2> verow: there are QR code generators online
401 Apr 17 22:52:34 <verow> great BLUG_Fred !
402 Apr 17 22:52:34 <BLUG_Fred2> verow: or on your pc (and free software ones)
403 Apr 17 22:52:35 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: google has one ;-)
404 Apr 17 22:52:39 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred2: The creation of the QR Code image is a 3-second job. Deciding what the QR Code should say is up to y'all.
405 Apr 17 22:52:48 <verow> ok Ill check taht
406 Apr 17 22:53:02 <BLUG_Fred> so back to admin
407 Apr 17 22:53:14 <LeandroNunes_br> but the current QR* reader, can deal with that
408 Apr 17 22:53:45 <BLUG_Fred> so we'll need someone to coordinate meetings, take notes.. what else?
409 Apr 17 22:53:52 <LeandroNunes_br> yes, back to the admin... ;-)
410 Apr 17 22:53:53 <annguyen> admin, press release, sponsorship
411 Apr 17 22:53:53 <BLUG_Fred2> kjcole: website url?
412 Apr 17 22:53:53 <annguyen> documetation is on cdrigby, right?
413 Apr 17 22:53:53 <kjcole> ("cat info.txt | qrencode -o sfd.png")
414 Apr 17 22:54:15 <BLUG_Fred> we can either have a rolling team or one individual for 1 year?
415 Apr 17 22:54:16 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: I think the website URL should be nice for the QR image
416 Apr 17 22:54:17 <cdrigby> Yes, can help with documentation. Will this also be coordinated through the webbers mailing list?
417 Apr 17 22:54:34 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: no
418 Apr 17 22:54:36 <pockeylam> cdrigby, in english? or other language?
419 Apr 17 22:54:46 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: i see webbers more as a technical related list
420 Apr 17 22:54:53 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: though they often overlap
421 Apr 17 22:55:06 <BLUG_Fred> maybe we keep documentation under marketing?
422 Apr 17 22:55:09 <cdrigby> pokeylam: English. My French & Italian are too weak to write directly.
423 Apr 17 22:55:20 <verow> sound correct BLUG_Fred
424 Apr 17 22:55:29 <pockeylam> cdrigby, your email address?
425 Apr 17 22:55:35 <BLUG_Fred> and once doc is complete we inform localization team
426 Apr 17 22:55:36 <cdrigby> c.david.rigby@gmail.com
427 Apr 17 22:56:00 <LeandroNunes_br> so, this documentation that are you talking about... is for what ?
428 Apr 17 22:56:01 <BLUG_Fred> so anyone interested to coordinate the meeting and keep notes, upload irc logs, etc?
429 Apr 17 22:56:11 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: website, wiki, slides, etc
430 Apr 17 22:56:28 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: i think it could include multimedia content as it is under marketing
431 Apr 17 22:56:46 <BLUG_Fred> it's documentation to help with the event really
432 Apr 17 22:56:49 <Mike_UK> Use something like http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot for IRC meets or at least the markup to keep things on track.
433 Apr 17 22:56:55 <pockeylam> for documentation, we will will keep using marketing mailing, tasks related to contents for website, wiki, slides, etc
434 Apr 17 22:57:15 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: so markup highlighting doesn't work yet with moinmoin
435 Apr 17 22:57:20 <BLUG_Fred> i checked
436 Apr 17 22:57:42 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: but i'll look into that bot
437 Apr 17 22:57:42 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, LeandroNunes_br: OK for docs types. I'll need help if we are talking animations.
438 Apr 17 22:57:48 <rjian> any task for me? :)
439 Apr 17 22:57:48 <cdrigby> pokeylam: OK.
440 Apr 17 22:58:07 <BLUG_Fred> rjian: well you're welcome to say when there is something that you're interested in
441 Apr 17 22:58:26 <BLUG_Fred> nobody is into admin stuff
442 Apr 17 22:58:36 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, means you can do #topic something to keep things on track.
443 Apr 17 22:58:39 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, pockeylam: please keep in mind that I can help a bit now, but I really do not have much free time before end of Apr.
444 Apr 17 22:58:41 <BLUG_Fred> ok so for now let's agree that we'll use this time of the day for our meetings
445 Apr 17 22:58:48 <BLUG_Fred> how often should we meet?
446 Apr 17 22:58:53 <pockeylam> cdrigby, got it
447 Apr 17 22:58:56 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: sure
448 Apr 17 22:59:01 <BLUG_Fred> we're all volunteers
449 Apr 17 22:59:17 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred: current meeting time +1
450 Apr 17 22:59:21 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: bi-weekly ?
451 Apr 17 22:59:21 <annguyen> cdrigby: +1
452 Apr 17 22:59:21 <BLUG_Fred> we do what we can, and it's always nice if we can let others know when we can't complete a task
453 Apr 17 22:59:26 <BLUG_Fred> (early enough ;-) )
454 Apr 17 22:59:39 <lumjjb> BLUG_Fred:Fortnightly seems like a good interval
455 Apr 17 22:59:44 <cdrigby> meeting freq. bi-weekly +1
456 Apr 17 22:59:47 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: you mean twice a week or every other week?
457 Apr 17 22:59:58 <lumjjb> that's +1 for me too
458 Apr 17 23:00:04 <LeandroNunes_br> each 15 days
459 Apr 17 23:00:06 <BLUG_Fred> ok
460 Apr 17 23:00:14 <verow> +1
461 Apr 17 23:00:15 <pockeylam> so every other week then?
462 Apr 17 23:00:16 <kjcole> I have a standing other volunteer gig usually at this time. I can be sort-of available during that, at least occasionally, but not as good as today. (Today it was canceled.)
463 Apr 17 23:00:26 <Mike_UK> Every two weeks. +1
464 Apr 17 23:00:44 <BLUG_Fred> so that's done. Next meeting will be on Sunday 1400UTC May 1st?
465 Apr 17 23:00:47 <kjcole> Still, I don't know of a better time. So... +0.5 ;-)
466 Apr 17 23:00:51 <BLUG_Fred> ouch that's a bank holidays in a lot of place
467 Apr 17 23:00:53 <BLUG_Fred> s
468 Apr 17 23:01:06 <BLUG_Fred> is may 1st an issue?
469 Apr 17 23:01:10 <BLUG_Fred> May
470 Apr 17 23:02:53 <pockeylam> * we will keep the same timing (Sunday: UTC 1400) every other week. (next meeting will be on May 1st)
471 Apr 17 23:07:08 <cdrigby> I'm flexible on start time. Earlier would be easier for me than later on a given date, though.
472 Apr 17 23:07:08 <buldo> Every two weeks. +1
473 Apr 17 23:07:08 <LeandroNunes_br> I'll try to bring more reliable volunteers to here...
474 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> and we target to finish every meeting in 1 hour
475 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> so please everybody update their own action items by emails before each meetings?
476 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> in order to save time
477 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, nice :)
478 Apr 17 23:07:08 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, I can.
479 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, thanks!
480 Apr 17 23:07:08 <lumjjb> May 1: +1
481 Apr 17 23:07:08 <rjian> rjian@cp-union.com
482 Apr 17 23:07:08 <cdrigby> No, 1 May is OK. But kjcole has a conflict. I could meet earlier in the day, is all, if that helps.
483 Apr 17 23:07:08 <rjian> :)
484 Apr 17 23:07:08 <annguyen> which mailing list for everyone to use?
485 Apr 17 23:07:08 <Mike_UK> 1st May. +1
486 Apr 17 23:07:08 <annguyen> sf discuss
487 Apr 17 23:07:08 <cdrigby> 1st May +1
488 Apr 17 23:07:08 <annguyen> or sf marketing?
489 Apr 17 23:07:08 <BLUG_Fred2> Mike_UK: I got yours.. thanks
490 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> rjian, u take any action item so far?
491 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> annguyen, yes, we keep in marketing
492 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> annguyen, for sub groups like graphic design, webbers, you can subscribe if you wanna help them specificly
493 Apr 17 23:07:08 <LeandroNunes_br> May 1st it's fine
494 Apr 17 23:07:08 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, are you going to email out the actions?
495 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, yes
496 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> for this time, but let's try to find volunteers to take up this task :)
497 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> for next times
498 Apr 17 23:07:08 <annguyen> nice pockeylam
499 Apr 17 23:07:08 <LeandroNunes_br> Yes, between our meetings we need to discuss in our specific forums to make real things :D
500 Apr 17 23:07:08 <annguyen> okay, what's about press release? and sponsorship?
501 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> annguyen, for sponsorship , it's more for local sponsors
502 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> fred is lagging
503 Apr 17 23:07:08 <Mike_UK> :)
504 Apr 17 23:07:08 <annguyen> ok
505 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> if anybody who can help to get some local sponsors , that will be great :)
506 Apr 17 23:07:08 <rjian> pockeylam, can i be on the press release? promotion of it.. ?
507 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> rjian, sure!
508 Apr 17 23:07:08 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, how local? Country?
509 Apr 17 23:07:08 <LeandroNunes_br> yes, is pretty tricky, but I'll try :D
510 Apr 17 23:07:08 <annguyen> pockeylam: what should be done for the press release?
511 Apr 17 23:07:08 <annguyen> I'm confused a little
512 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> what we' re doing with Nokia china is that they sponsor half sfd china and half SFI
513 Apr 17 23:07:08 <verow> \o/ pockeylam
514 Apr 17 23:07:08 <LeandroNunes_br> pockeylam, define:SFI
515 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> we got one company who wanted to sponsor SFI from the team leader survey
516 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> software freedom international ....
517 Apr 17 23:07:08 <LeandroNunes_br> ah, ok
518 Apr 17 23:07:08 * BLUG_Fred2 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
519 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> it's the non-profit organizaiton behind sfd
520 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> so if any local sponsor who would love to sponsor SFI , please let us know
521 Apr 17 23:07:08 * BLUG_Fred2 (c2ce3f5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.206.63.93) has joined #sfd-marketing
522 Apr 17 23:07:08 <pockeylam> the money is mainly to produce goodies and deliver goodies
523 Apr 17 23:07:11 <pockeylam> :)
524 Apr 17 23:07:14 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, what level money?
525 Apr 17 23:07:23 <Mike_UK> of money?
526 Apr 17 23:07:23 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: we ask for $4k
527 Apr 17 23:07:31 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, any amount is welcome, e.g. 5K
528 Apr 17 23:07:34 <BLUG_Fred> though we make exception for smaller entities
529 Apr 17 23:07:37 <LeandroNunes_br> do you have idea about the amount of $ to become a SFI sponsor ?
530 Apr 17 23:07:47 <BLUG_Fred> and bigger ones do give more like Google
531 Apr 17 23:07:57 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: yes. $4k
532 Apr 17 23:08:14 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, i would say it's from 2K USD
533 Apr 17 23:08:24 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, if it is a community
534 Apr 17 23:08:34 <BLUG_Fred> we do not have sponsorship levels.. we tend to like to keep things simple
535 Apr 17 23:08:39 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: but Google Translate gets flack for not being Free, as noted earlier. Mixed messages. ;-)
536 Apr 17 23:08:40 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, esp. for free software related communities
537 Apr 17 23:08:43 <BLUG_Fred> maye it's something we could consider changing
538 Apr 17 23:08:48 <LeandroNunes_br> ok, in the last event that I organized, our sponsor give something like... 200 USD
539 Apr 17 23:09:03 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: not from us.. and they know. They accepted it
540 Apr 17 23:09:14 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: we've had extensive discussions on the topic
541 Apr 17 23:09:28 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: well then you should keep them as your own sponsor
542 Apr 17 23:09:29 <Mike_UK> like using google maps!
543 Apr 17 23:09:33 <pockeylam> so if anybody have local sponsors who would love to sponsor SFD on a global level, please let us know
544 Apr 17 23:09:49 <LeandroNunes_br> I'll try that. fine
545 Apr 17 23:09:50 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, how about press release, annguyen asked fo rit
546 Apr 17 23:09:55 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, thanks!
547 Apr 17 23:10:03 <BLUG_Fred> i think only companies with some kind of global brand awarness will be interested in sponsoring SFI/SFD global
548 Apr 17 23:10:21 <BLUG_Fred> so we're past the hour already
549 Apr 17 23:10:29 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, can be a donation
550 Apr 17 23:10:39 <BLUG_Fred> do we want to continue a bit more, or stop here and continue on the mailing list?
551 Apr 17 23:10:42 <pockeylam> we got a linus user group donated some money to us before for many years
552 Apr 17 23:10:52 <BLUG_Fred> pockeylam: yes, the DKUUG
553 Apr 17 23:11:08 <pockeylam> who is in a rush to leave?
554 Apr 17 23:11:15 <annguyen> not /me
555 Apr 17 23:11:18 <BLUG_Fred> PR should cover import announcements in the life of an SFD event
556 Apr 17 23:11:25 <lumjjb> we've got companies in SG who have backed out on sponsorship =S
557 Apr 17 23:11:35 <Mike_UK> not /me
558 Apr 17 23:11:39 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: language?
559 Apr 17 23:11:42 <BLUG_Fred> things like registration, event success and wrap-up/competitions results I think
560 Apr 17 23:11:48 <annguyen> english only?
561 Apr 17 23:11:54 <buldo> me
562 Apr 17 23:12:01 <pockeylam> lumjjb, u can talk to them if they are interested to sponsor SFI :) and let us know
563 Apr 17 23:12:16 <pockeylam> lumjjb, BLUG_Fred is the one responsible to talk to sponsors
564 Apr 17 23:12:16 <BLUG_Fred> annguyen: well we would work on the English one and localization team would localize for local press contact
565 Apr 17 23:12:25 <pockeylam> annguyen, of course english,
566 Apr 17 23:12:29 <BLUG_Fred> the issue with PRs is that you need a good network to spread the word
567 Apr 17 23:12:30 <murphnj> Gotta go, thanks.
568 Apr 17 23:12:32 <kjcole> I dunno if they have any money, but Open Source for America (http://opensourceforamerica.org/) while not having an international focus per se, might be worth connecting with. Unless we get into quibbles about Free vs. Open Source.
569 Apr 17 23:12:35 <lumjjb> pockeylam: sure
570 Apr 17 23:12:40 <pockeylam> annguyen, and then localize the press release to other languages
571 Apr 17 23:13:01 * murphnj (~murph@fsf/member/murphnj) has left #sfd-marketing
572 Apr 17 23:13:04 <pockeylam> annguyen, and then promotion of press release
573 Apr 17 23:13:08 <BLUG_Fred> we need to build a better press network
574 Apr 17 23:13:14 <LeandroNunes_br> pockeylam, it's very important
575 Apr 17 23:13:20 <buldo> I have to leave, thanks
576 Apr 17 23:13:21 <BLUG_Fred> and that's not easy (to interest the press)
577 Apr 17 23:13:27 <BLUG_Fred> buldo: well thanks for joining
578 Apr 17 23:13:36 <BLUG_Fred> buldo: we'll email the meeting notes to the list
579 Apr 17 23:13:41 <BLUG_Fred> buldo: and the AIs
580 Apr 17 23:13:48 <annguyen> I see
581 Apr 17 23:13:58 <buldo> perfect, thanks
582 Apr 17 23:14:01 <buldo> bye
583 Apr 17 23:14:05 <annguyen> bye buldo
584 Apr 17 23:14:09 <kjcole> And Red Hat's "facades" http://opensource.com/ and http://teachingopensource.org/
585 Apr 17 23:14:19 <lumjjb> cya buldo
586 Apr 17 23:14:25 * buldo has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0/20110318052756])
587 Apr 17 23:14:26 <BLUG_Fred> buldo: bye
588 Apr 17 23:15:07 <BLUG_Fred> another things which has interested sponsors in the past was to provide speakers.. but we have sucked at getting teams interested
589 Apr 17 23:15:26 <annguyen> so, from my understanding
590 Apr 17 23:15:28 <BLUG_Fred> besides it's hard to predict how big will be the local event closer to the offered speaker
591 Apr 17 23:15:39 <annguyen> SFI will write the english version of press release
592 Apr 17 23:15:56 <annguyen> then the localization team to translate it and send to local press?
593 Apr 17 23:16:06 <BLUG_Fred> if anyone has ideas on how to do better match making between sponsors speakers and local events (thus also helping local events to rock more) I'm all ears
594 Apr 17 23:16:15 <BLUG_Fred> annguyen: yes
595 Apr 17 23:16:19 <pockeylam> annguyen, we will need helper, e.g. Mike_UK can help to proof read
596 Apr 17 23:16:30 <BLUG_Fred> annguyen: though marketing list feedback will be gathered
597 Apr 17 23:16:36 <LeandroNunes_br> so, please, once you've a version, send a message to localization team to provide the localized versions, right ?
598 Apr 17 23:16:46 <pockeylam> if someone is a writer or editor here, we should have somebody profession to do that :)
599 Apr 17 23:16:56 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, no problem
600 Apr 17 23:16:57 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: yes the translation mailing list will be informed
601 Apr 17 23:17:12 <pockeylam> and we need a better press netowkr
602 Apr 17 23:17:14 <pockeylam> network
603 Apr 17 23:17:24 <cdrigby> We did speakers out first two years, not our third. Speakers/seminars are a big draw for the professionals and businesses.
604 Apr 17 23:17:33 <Mike_UK> Use the LUGs of countries to help.
605 Apr 17 23:17:48 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: yes.. ours are not great
606 Apr 17 23:17:59 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: in terms of press contacts
607 Apr 17 23:18:02 <LeandroNunes_br> Here, we have some contacts of features tech blogs, newspapers and linux blogs to promote the event
608 Apr 17 23:18:03 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, so we need to build a network of lugs of countries , a database
609 Apr 17 23:18:04 <lumjjb> cdrigby: +1
610 Apr 17 23:18:16 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, nice, we should keep it in a wiki page
611 Apr 17 23:18:28 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, or so on, for these presses, we contact LeandroNunes_br , and so on
612 Apr 17 23:18:28 <LeandroNunes_br> of course
613 Apr 17 23:18:38 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, can you start this wiki page under marketing committee?
614 Apr 17 23:18:50 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br, Mike_UK so we should probably keep a list of those and who is in charge of contacting each of them. I tend to prefer personal communication over mailing/spam emails
615 Apr 17 23:18:56 <lumjjb> For this year, i've been looking into .gov support. There's been some set up of FOSS related groups in some govt. committees
616 Apr 17 23:19:02 <pockeylam> besides, if anybody want to have admin right to edit marketing committee wiki pages, please send me your wiki user name
617 Apr 17 23:19:07 <BLUG_Fred> I know that's how I do when I want to contact LUGs in Asia
618 Apr 17 23:19:12 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, yes.
619 Apr 17 23:19:14 <LeandroNunes_br> pockeylam, yes
620 Apr 17 23:19:24 <verow> http://aful.org/gul for French speaking lugs all around the World
621 Apr 17 23:19:39 <BLUG_Fred> rjian: so how do you see your role in all that?
622 Apr 17 23:19:47 <BLUG_Fred> rjian: finding a spot?
623 Apr 17 23:20:04 <cdrigby> pokeylam: I'll need it for docs, yes? CDavidRigby
624 Apr 17 23:20:13 <pockeylam> * everybody to work on a list of press network and help to spread the word for SFD
625 Apr 17 23:20:23 <pockeylam> cdrigby, right, add you now
626 Apr 17 23:20:30 <cdrigby> pokeylam: good idea.
627 Apr 17 23:20:33 <BLUG_Fred> pockeylam: we did track some for last year, didn't we?
628 Apr 17 23:20:46 <BLUG_Fred> i think we have a page of where we posted things last year
629 Apr 17 23:20:50 <LeandroNunes_br> yes, i think we need at least the Name / Contact and Prefered Language, right ?
630 Apr 17 23:20:52 <lumjjb> pokeylam:+1
631 Apr 17 23:20:58 <BLUG_Fred> that's definitely something we can re-use
632 Apr 17 23:20:59 <pockeylam> who else want to have admin right for marketing committee wiki page here?
633 Apr 17 23:21:08 <pockeylam> give me your wiki user name here
634 Apr 17 23:21:16 <verow> linux azur
635 Apr 17 23:21:19 <pockeylam> right now, only #
636 Apr 17 23:21:19 <pockeylam> PockeyLam
637 Apr 17 23:21:19 <pockeylam> #
638 Apr 17 23:21:19 <pockeylam> LinuxAzur
639 Apr 17 23:21:19 <pockeylam> #
640 Apr 17 23:21:19 <pockeylam> MarcosMarado
641 Apr 17 23:21:20 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: and who's responsible for that contact
642 Apr 17 23:21:23 <pockeylam> #
643 Apr 17 23:21:25 <pockeylam> MichaelDorrington
644 Apr 17 23:21:26 * kjcole stepped away for a minute...
645 Apr 17 23:21:27 <pockeylam> # CDavidRigby have right
646 Apr 17 23:21:29 <pockeylam> verow, you are there already
647 Apr 17 23:21:30 <LeandroNunes_br> right
648 Apr 17 23:21:34 <cdrigby> yes - correct
649 Apr 17 23:21:40 <BLUG_Fred> also it shouldn't be publicly available then, if they are people names and emails
650 Apr 17 23:22:21 <cdrigby> Hide email in database, provide mailserver link? Don't know if that is something the SFI server is set up for.
651 Apr 17 23:22:23 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, noted
652 Apr 17 23:22:27 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: responsible in our side, is that are you saying ?
653 Apr 17 23:22:38 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: yes
654 Apr 17 23:22:41 <LeandroNunes_br> ok
655 Apr 17 23:22:47 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, what's yr wiki user name?
656 Apr 17 23:23:02 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: i kind of discarded using a mailing list for those contacts. So what do you have in mind?
657 Apr 17 23:23:15 <LeandroNunes_br> Login Name: LeandroNunes
658 Apr 17 23:23:21 <lumjjb> could u add me to the wiki too - BrandonLum
659 Apr 17 23:23:24 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: there is currently no DB to handle any contact of any sort
660 Apr 17 23:23:30 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, added u
661 Apr 17 23:23:37 <pockeylam> lumjjb, sure
662 Apr 17 23:23:49 <pockeylam> lumjjb, done
663 Apr 17 23:23:53 <Mike_UK> Move topic on?
664 Apr 17 23:23:57 <lumjjb> pockeylam: thanks
665 Apr 17 23:24:05 <LeandroNunes_br> pockeylam: please take note of this page that I'll need to create, ok ?
666 Apr 17 23:24:15 <BLUG_Fred> so PR topic done
667 Apr 17 23:24:19 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, done :)
668 Apr 17 23:24:22 <LeandroNunes_br> because I'll do that tonight
669 Apr 17 23:24:24 <lumjjb> Just a random thought, putting on T-shirt print designs on the wiki would be great too :)
670 Apr 17 23:25:01 <BLUG_Fred> I think we should keep Promotion / marketing ideas for next time
671 Apr 17 23:25:12 <BLUG_Fred> lumjjb: we also have that
672 Apr 17 23:25:20 <BLUG_Fred> since 2005 or 6 i think
673 Apr 17 23:25:22 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, right,it's long
674 Apr 17 23:25:27 <BLUG_Fred> s/also/always
675 Apr 17 23:25:42 * kjcole has returned
676 Apr 17 23:25:42 <pockeylam> lumjjb, we always do
677 Apr 17 23:25:46 <pockeylam> * Goodies selection (based on survey results) for 2011 (5 mins)
678 Apr 17 23:25:46 <pockeylam> * Competition prizes (based on survey results) for 2011 (5 mins)
679 Apr 17 23:25:50 <BLUG_Fred> Goodies selection: i hope everyone read the team leader survey
680 Apr 17 23:25:52 <pockeylam> we can talk about goodies selection onw
681 Apr 17 23:25:53 <pockeylam> now
682 Apr 17 23:26:03 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, I did! ;)
683 Apr 17 23:26:06 <BLUG_Fred> I didn't see any ground breaking idea
684 Apr 17 23:26:10 <pockeylam> and then competition prizes can be for next time, everybody to think about competition prizes and suggest in next meeting
685 Apr 17 23:26:13 <BLUG_Fred> so back to Tshirts and Cds
686 Apr 17 23:26:16 <lumjjb> pockeylam: ah k, i must have missed it..
687 Apr 17 23:26:19 <kjcole> pockeylam: Oh goody! ;-)
688 Apr 17 23:26:25 * Mike_UK favourite topic.
689 Apr 17 23:26:41 <BLUG_Fred> competition prizes should be announce is registration PR maybe? that could motivate people as well
690 Apr 17 23:27:03 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, +1
691 Apr 17 23:27:09 <BLUG_Fred> I was thinking to keep Makerbot if they are interested, but other ideas are/will be welcome
692 Apr 17 23:27:11 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, +1
693 Apr 17 23:27:20 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: +1
694 Apr 17 23:27:25 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, yep
695 Apr 17 23:27:30 <BLUG_Fred> this year we will work this way for goodies:
696 Apr 17 23:27:31 <LeandroNunes_br> i agree, but I think the people that organize these events aren't motivated by the competition.
697 Apr 17 23:27:40 <pockeylam> so according to the survey
698 Apr 17 23:27:40 <verow> BLUG_Fred you can add décapsuleurs http://www.badges25mm.fr/fabrication-badges-decapsuleur-ronds-metalliques.php
699 Apr 17 23:27:40 <LeandroNunes_br> But ok, that's a good idea :D
700 Apr 17 23:27:50 <Mike_UK> LeandroNunes_br, agree, I'm not.
701 Apr 17 23:28:03 <BLUG_Fred> we have started budgeting and we will only give goodies for the amount of sponsorship we collect (less a error margin)
702 Apr 17 23:28:05 <pockeylam> people tend to prefer, tshirts first, and then DVDs / CDs, stickers, and last balloons
703 Apr 17 23:28:22 <BLUG_Fred> verow: yes? useful? how does it relate to SFD?
704 Apr 17 23:28:34 <LeandroNunes_br> what's the content of these CDs and DVDs ?
705 Apr 17 23:28:39 <LeandroNunes_br> linux distributions ?
706 Apr 17 23:28:43 <BLUG_Fred> verow: we were actually thinking to pass on the button badges
707 Apr 17 23:28:48 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, gnu/linux distributions, open cds
708 Apr 17 23:28:57 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: so yes, and open disc
709 Apr 17 23:29:04 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred: prize announce at registration +1
710 Apr 17 23:29:05 <pockeylam> verow, yeah, it's expensive, and heavy... and people seems not interested is it
711 Apr 17 23:29:10 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: it's mainly for people who do not have internet connection though
712 Apr 17 23:29:15 <pockeylam> verow, according to team leader survey results
713 Apr 17 23:29:18 <kjcole> pockeylam: Speaking only for our team: Balloons are a real waste. Don't want 'em don't need 'em.
714 Apr 17 23:29:22 <verow> ok pockeylam
715 Apr 17 23:29:23 <pockeylam> but fred and i suggested to give away banner
716 Apr 17 23:29:26 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: we are in no way able to ship 100CDs per team
717 Apr 17 23:29:28 <pockeylam> one banner for big teams
718 Apr 17 23:29:36 <LeandroNunes_br> hmm, and what about to get a lot of CDs directly with distributions ? like Canonical ?
719 Apr 17 23:29:47 <pockeylam> kjcole, but balloons are cheap and light to send :)
720 Apr 17 23:29:50 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: don't you feel they give color to the event?
721 Apr 17 23:30:00 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: we already have that
722 Apr 17 23:30:03 <Mike_UK> T-shirts are really good. Balloons are nice but not so essential.
723 Apr 17 23:30:04 <pockeylam> i like the pictures with balloons on it
724 Apr 17 23:30:23 <LeandroNunes_br> as organizer, a like balloons :D
725 Apr 17 23:30:27 <BLUG_Fred> we're thinking to add 1 t-shirt if we can afford this year, raising the number to 4 tshirts per team
726 Apr 17 23:30:40 <LeandroNunes_br> also, get pretty good in the event pictures
727 Apr 17 23:30:46 <kjcole> Although perhaps a bureaucratic nightmare, it would be nice to have a "carry-out menu" for teams: Choose from among the following. No more than X choices.
728 Apr 17 23:30:50 <BLUG_Fred> i have started discussing with Novell as well to get openSUSE DVDs
729 Apr 17 23:31:00 <pockeylam> if we have enough budget, we can do 1) tshirts 2) dvds - open free cds 3) stickers or balloons 4) banner
730 Apr 17 23:31:04 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, I'd go for T-shirts over CDs.
731 Apr 17 23:31:06 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred: cool!
732 Apr 17 23:31:10 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: We've got colorful banners and now a colorful tablecloth.
733 Apr 17 23:31:10 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: we get a lot of heat for shipping Ubuntu as well (and especially only Ubuntu)
734 Apr 17 23:31:34 <pockeylam> so Tshirts are the most wanted items
735 Apr 17 23:31:36 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: i've a friend on community leads at openSuse
736 Apr 17 23:31:39 <pockeylam> what is the next wanted item?
737 Apr 17 23:31:39 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred: but isn't it Canonical that ships Ubuntu in support of SFD?
738 Apr 17 23:31:40 <pockeylam> banner?
739 Apr 17 23:31:44 <pockeylam> stickers?
740 Apr 17 23:31:46 <pockeylam> dvds?
741 Apr 17 23:31:48 <BLUG_Fred> we could also consider having people chose among the list of stuff, but it makes packaging a lot more complicated
742 Apr 17 23:31:51 <cdrigby> stickers +1
743 Apr 17 23:31:54 <verow> stickers +1
744 Apr 17 23:31:56 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: it is
745 Apr 17 23:32:01 <pockeylam> i love stickers too :)
746 Apr 17 23:32:07 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: That's what I just said.
747 Apr 17 23:32:08 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: and we're trying to get Novell to do the same
748 Apr 17 23:32:09 <verow> easy to transport
749 Apr 17 23:32:17 <pockeylam> how about a 2 meter x 0.5 meter banner?
750 Apr 17 23:32:23 <pockeylam> written Software Freedom Day
751 Apr 17 23:32:27 <pockeylam> that can be reusable
752 Apr 17 23:32:28 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: that it was complicating things on the packing line?
753 Apr 17 23:32:29 <BLUG_Fred> ;-)
754 Apr 17 23:32:36 <pockeylam> colorful banner
755 Apr 17 23:32:37 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, agree with the Ubuntu CDs heat especially now with Unity and CCA.
756 Apr 17 23:32:41 <LeandroNunes_br> pockeylam: really good idea
757 Apr 17 23:32:41 <annguyen> I think each team can print their tshirts and burn cd/dvds
758 Apr 17 23:32:46 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, :)
759 Apr 17 23:32:47 <BLUG_Fred> yes we re also thinking to ship things that are reusable
760 Apr 17 23:32:53 <pockeylam> anybody wants banner, please say +1
761 Apr 17 23:32:57 <BLUG_Fred> so maybe build an event kit over the years
762 Apr 17 23:32:58 <annguyen> banner and sticker should be the nicer
763 Apr 17 23:33:00 <annguyen> +1
764 Apr 17 23:33:00 <pockeylam> so we count if we will make banner this year
765 Apr 17 23:33:01 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, let the disto's ship CDs if they want to.
766 Apr 17 23:33:08 <lumjjb> pockeylam:+1
767 Apr 17 23:33:18 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: well it's a bit more complicated.. if you don't ask, they don't ship
768 Apr 17 23:33:23 <verow> Roll-up (kakemono) sound good too
769 Apr 17 23:33:26 <Mike_UK> stickers +1
770 Apr 17 23:33:29 <annguyen> pockeylam: should be reusable :)
771 Apr 17 23:33:29 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: Yes (to packing complication AND building a kit over the years)
772 Apr 17 23:33:33 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: these reusable things have an ecological appeal, as well
773 Apr 17 23:33:46 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: and all the FSF people are complaining that we don't ship any 100% Free distros
774 Apr 17 23:33:57 <pockeylam> 1st) tshirts 2nd) stickers 3)?
775 Apr 17 23:34:02 <pockeylam> what is the third wanted items?
776 Apr 17 23:34:12 <pockeylam> dvds? balloons, banner?
777 Apr 17 23:34:13 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: not everyone use gnewsense :)
778 Apr 17 23:34:17 <LeandroNunes_br> banners ? balloons ?
779 Apr 17 23:34:21 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, I mean ask the distro's to ship at their cost.
780 Apr 17 23:34:23 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole, LeandroNunes_br : i fully agree. though we need to think about stuff that are useful and affordable and make sense to ship
781 Apr 17 23:34:41 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, FSF people like me! :)
782 Apr 17 23:34:55 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, our job is very difficult :)
783 Apr 17 23:34:56 <LeandroNunes_br> Mike_UK: :)
784 Apr 17 23:34:56 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: actually.. no. not like you
785 Apr 17 23:34:58 <BLUG_Fred> ;-)
786 Apr 17 23:35:07 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, please try to understand us sometimes ;-) we have very little support
787 Apr 17 23:35:23 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, Mike_UK: Any chance that Debian WOULD ship CDs? There philosophy/practice seems more to download from 'Net.
788 Apr 17 23:35:45 <kjcole> pockeylam: any other clothing item? Hats? or other lightweight stuff? (Heavier stuff like mug / cup / stein are probably out.)
789 Apr 17 23:35:47 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, I understand and am being nice. O:)<
790 Apr 17 23:35:52 <pockeylam> cdrigby, for debian most likely we need to do it ourselves :)
791 Apr 17 23:35:58 <pockeylam> cdrigby, but we do want to ship free cds
792 Apr 17 23:36:00 <annguyen> cdrigby: I still believe that each team should burn the disk for themselves
793 Apr 17 23:36:02 <pockeylam> cdrigby, free open cds
794 Apr 17 23:36:08 <Mike_UK> Yes, Debian is more download from the net.
795 Apr 17 23:36:10 <kjcole> pockeylam: pens? keychains? other swag / crap? ;-)
796 Apr 17 23:36:10 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: they don't have money
797 Apr 17 23:36:13 <pockeylam> annguyen, yeah +1
798 Apr 17 23:36:38 <pockeylam> kjcole, pens , keychains are rather heavy and bulky to ship
799 Apr 17 23:36:41 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: clothing is not really reusable by the team though
800 Apr 17 23:36:50 <LeandroNunes_br> pockeylam: what about pendrives ?
801 Apr 17 23:36:56 <pockeylam> we need to think of something, useful, reusable, light and rather cheap :)
802 Apr 17 23:36:57 <annguyen> LeandroNunes_br: USB?
803 Apr 17 23:36:57 <BLUG_Fred> annguyen: yes
804 Apr 17 23:37:07 <LeandroNunes_br> yes. are they very expensives ?
805 Apr 17 23:37:08 <annguyen> think of tax and import law
806 Apr 17 23:37:10 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, if we found sponsors... too expensive
807 Apr 17 23:37:26 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, if you get us sponsors of pendrives, why not ;-)
808 Apr 17 23:37:27 <LeandroNunes_br> ok, only a suggestion.
809 Apr 17 23:37:31 <Mike_UK> Maybe send CDs/DVDs only to countries which don't have fast cheap Internet access?
810 Apr 17 23:37:32 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, :)
811 Apr 17 23:37:35 <LeandroNunes_br> :)
812 Apr 17 23:37:44 <annguyen> Mike_UK: agree!
813 Apr 17 23:37:44 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: yes, that would make a lot of sense
814 Apr 17 23:37:53 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: not sure how teams would take it
815 Apr 17 23:37:53 <verow> +1 Mike_UK
816 Apr 17 23:38:13 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: when I received mine (from SFD) i felt giving me 3 openCDs brought me no value
817 Apr 17 23:38:16 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: If you keep a year off of it, clothing is reusable: Like the T-shirts...
818 Apr 17 23:38:25 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: have you had any troubled with tax in 3rd countries?
819 Apr 17 23:38:31 <annguyen> *trouble
820 Apr 17 23:38:31 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, BLUG_Fred, true...
821 Apr 17 23:38:35 <LeandroNunes_br> Mike_UK: good, here, for example, we don't need, because we can get directly with community leads
822 Apr 17 23:38:43 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: but only by yourself.. and you might or might not take part in the next year event
823 Apr 17 23:38:48 <pockeylam> annguyen, for a few tshirts, not really
824 Apr 17 23:38:49 <Mike_UK> I wear my SFD2009 T-shirt when I'm promoting free software, I love it.
825 Apr 17 23:38:51 <BLUG_Fred> annguyen: lots
826 Apr 17 23:38:54 <pockeylam> annguyen, but a large amount of stuff, sure
827 Apr 17 23:39:08 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: True enough.
828 Apr 17 23:39:09 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: I've had once in vietnam (lat year)
829 Apr 17 23:39:15 <LeandroNunes_br> this can reduce drastically the costs to sent the SFD stuff
830 Apr 17 23:39:26 <pockeylam> let's think about the logistic of sending cds to to those countries that have slow internet access
831 Apr 17 23:39:34 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: teams tend to change over the years. It does work for us but we're somewhat a minority
832 Apr 17 23:39:36 <annguyen> yes pockeylam
833 Apr 17 23:39:47 <LeandroNunes_br> Mike_UK: is a green shirt ? :)
834 Apr 17 23:39:52 <annguyen> LeandroNunes_br: great
835 Apr 17 23:39:59 <Mike_UK> LeandroNunes_br, yes, I get noticed!
836 Apr 17 23:40:05 <LeandroNunes_br> :)
837 Apr 17 23:40:29 <annguyen> btw, if any local team can manage to print their own tshirts
838 Apr 17 23:40:31 <BLUG_Fred> also I wouldn't send English only OpenCDs to non English speaking country.. but picking countries based on internet and language is a difficult criteria
839 Apr 17 23:40:41 <annguyen> then it can save a lot of money for SFI
840 Apr 17 23:40:45 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, yes, quite some work :)
841 Apr 17 23:40:55 <kjcole> OK, for teams that burn their own CD's: Graphics for CD labels to download would be nice. (Sheets with preprinted CD labels might even be nicer.)
842 Apr 17 23:40:56 <pockeylam> who is willing to take up this task?
843 Apr 17 23:41:05 <Mike_UK> If the design images for the T-shirts where easy to download so that they could easily be taken to a T-shirt printer then that would help.
844 Apr 17 23:41:11 <lumjjb> kjcole:+1
845 Apr 17 23:41:16 <annguyen> Mike_UK: +1
846 Apr 17 23:41:16 <verow> pockeylam I do
847 Apr 17 23:41:19 <BLUG_Fred> yes teams are not equal..
848 Apr 17 23:41:26 <pockeylam> to manage open / free cds, to plan for the logistic of shipping to those countries that have slow internet access?
849 Apr 17 23:41:32 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: aren't they easy to download?
850 Apr 17 23:41:41 <LeandroNunes_br> annguyen, we can compare the costs and have surprises :D, but we can try make local stuff
851 Apr 17 23:41:48 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: we have an history of uploading all our artworks in svg format on the wiki
852 Apr 17 23:41:59 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, the design artwork is online every year
853 Apr 17 23:42:18 <BLUG_Fred> for CD we should definitely have a strong message to suggest "other ways"
854 Apr 17 23:42:20 <pockeylam> they are all in the wiki page, let's promote it widely this year :)
855 Apr 17 23:42:23 <annguyen> pockeylam: which goodies are cheaper than others?
856 Apr 17 23:42:23 <pockeylam> seems a lot of people don't know about it
857 Apr 17 23:42:30 <annguyen> stickers i suppose?
858 Apr 17 23:42:34 <pockeylam> annguyen, cheapest is balloons
859 Apr 17 23:42:37 <cdrigby> kjcole: good idea. Perhaps if we can come up with the graphics team resources, we could provide a label image, and it could be amenable to localization itself. Then the local SFD group could download the appropriate localized distro.
860 Apr 17 23:42:43 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, not super easy. :) There was lots on the page including mocked up T-shirts but nothing that shouted out "take me to the T-shirt printers".
861 Apr 17 23:42:44 <verow> stickers are cheap
862 Apr 17 23:42:44 <pockeylam> then stickers
863 Apr 17 23:43:12 <BLUG_Fred> ok so goodies priority is based on team feedbacks and necessity: 1. tshirts 2. CDs then.. depends on how much fund we raise
864 Apr 17 23:43:31 <Mike_UK> What about iron on transfers of the T-shirt designs? Then teams could get T-shirts and iron on the design?
865 Apr 17 23:43:42 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, +1
866 Apr 17 23:43:46 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: good feedback. it's really a marketing angle.
867 Apr 17 23:44:02 <verow> +1 Mike_UK
868 Apr 17 23:44:12 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: yes.. that's a brilliant idea. should be cheaper and lighter
869 Apr 17 23:44:30 <lumjjb> Mike_UK: +1
870 Apr 17 23:44:32 <Mike_UK> \o/
871 Apr 17 23:44:46 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, +1 we can explore this options
872 Apr 17 23:44:54 <kjcole> Also a possibility: A template for small business cards (with a space for local info) or the like, to be inserted into CD slip covers, or just handed out.
873 Apr 17 23:45:42 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: which organization would you put on that business card? the issue i see is that many many different communities organized SFD and they will want to keep their own identity
874 Apr 17 23:46:01 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: and for the others they are not affiliates with us (SFI)
875 Apr 17 23:46:04 <rjian> pins also
876 Apr 17 23:46:29 <lumjjb> rjian, hmm what kind of pins are you refering to?
877 Apr 17 23:46:34 <kjcole> BLUG_Fred: No business. Just a card that says "Software Freedom Day 2011" and has space for where to get in touch with the local geeks.
878 Apr 17 23:46:49 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: again i think giving business card with information on how to get support or find out more should be done at any FOSS event
879 Apr 17 23:46:51 <LeandroNunes_br> so, here we'll make mugs, with SFD logo on one side and a really big QR-code on the other side...
880 Apr 17 23:47:00 <LeandroNunes_br> are cheap here
881 Apr 17 23:47:08 <cdrigby> all: maybe as much flexibility as possible in terms of supporting local SFD groups is in order? Those w/ slow 'Net access and/or minimal funds can get "hard items". Those with decent local resources/'Net speed can download and create physical items locally? It might not seem far to some, I suppose...
882 Apr 17 23:47:14 <rjian> pin button
883 Apr 17 23:47:15 <rjian> :)
884 Apr 17 23:47:45 <pockeylam> rjian, from the team leader survey, it seems that they are interested in pins
885 Apr 17 23:47:46 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: i think even within the US access to good Internet can be difficult
886 Apr 17 23:47:59 <LeandroNunes_br> yes, pin buttons only with the logo, can be reusable across the years, right ?
887 Apr 17 23:48:05 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, bcard: agreed.
888 Apr 17 23:48:06 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, they are nice to have.
889 Apr 17 23:48:44 <BLUG_Fred> rjian: anything after tshirts and CD is based on funds availability
890 Apr 17 23:48:44 <pockeylam> team prefer: 1) tshirts 2) dvds / cds 3) stickers
891 Apr 17 23:48:49 <Mike_UK> LeandroNunes_br, +1
892 Apr 17 23:48:50 <pockeylam> yes :)
893 Apr 17 23:48:52 <BLUG_Fred> rjian: and prioritized according to survey
894 Apr 17 23:49:15 <BLUG_Fred> so now that we have a great alternative for Tshirts, we might be able to send other stuff
895 Apr 17 23:49:46 <BLUG_Fred> I think if we can, pins or button badges with "Please ask me about Software Freedom" would be nice
896 Apr 17 23:49:52 <BLUG_Fred> that's a clear message and resuable
897 Apr 17 23:49:57 <BLUG_Fred> reusable
898 Apr 17 23:50:22 <annguyen> I think that ballons are the best reusable goodies
899 Apr 17 23:50:23 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, the FSF have similar pins.
900 Apr 17 23:50:28 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: that a great idea
901 Apr 17 23:50:30 <kjcole> Oops. I haven't been watching the time. Gotta run. I'll try to catch up with the log or notes or whatever... Ta-ta.
902 Apr 17 23:50:30 <annguyen> banner as well
903 Apr 17 23:50:42 <Mike_UK> annguyen, balloons? do you let them down afterwards?
904 Apr 17 23:50:44 <pockeylam> annguyen, +1 i like balloons too...
905 Apr 17 23:50:47 <rjian> pockeylam, yup in PH when we celebrate SFD we usually look for sponsors to create a customized PINS
906 Apr 17 23:50:53 <LeandroNunes_br> to have more "Software Freedom" ambassors (is it correct) ?
907 Apr 17 23:50:57 <annguyen> Mike_UK: yeah
908 Apr 17 23:51:02 <pockeylam> rjian, we will produce pins if we have enough money :)
909 Apr 17 23:51:05 <BLUG_Fred> kjcole: ok thanks a lot
910 Apr 17 23:51:07 <cdrigby> kjcole: have a good one!
911 Apr 17 23:51:09 <Mike_UK> annguyen, wow.
912 Apr 17 23:51:10 * kjcole (~kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole) has left #sfd-marketing ("Konversation terminated!")
913 Apr 17 23:51:15 <rjian> pockeylam, hehe ok
914 Apr 17 23:51:17 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: i didn't know. are they that engaging?
915 Apr 17 23:51:23 <annguyen> we won;t cost the Earth :-)
916 Apr 17 23:51:44 <annguyen> stickers are awesome and meaningful
917 Apr 17 23:51:58 <annguyen> but we'll have to give them away to the participants
918 Apr 17 23:52:17 <Mike_UK> BLUG_Fred, maybe not.
919 Apr 17 23:52:29 <BLUG_Fred> ok. I suggest we end the meeting soon. We covered a lot of stuff and it was only the first meeting
920 Apr 17 23:52:39 <annguyen> BLUG_Fred: yes
921 Apr 17 23:52:46 <BLUG_Fred> it's been almost 2 hours
922 Apr 17 23:52:47 <verow> yes BLUG_Fred
923 Apr 17 23:52:51 <pockeylam> so far, from the survey, we will most likely produce tshirts (iron stickers) , stickers
924 Apr 17 23:52:51 <BLUG_Fred> and we're starting to lose some
925 Apr 17 23:53:01 <annguyen> so first things first
926 Apr 17 23:53:02 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: yes, i have to go in a couple of minutes
927 Apr 17 23:53:06 <pockeylam> so we can leave other items for next meeting
928 Apr 17 23:53:13 <BLUG_Fred> and CD only for needing teams
929 Apr 17 23:53:15 <verow> ok pockeylam
930 Apr 17 23:53:22 <pockeylam> and i will send out meeting notes for next time
931 Apr 17 23:53:40 <Mike_UK> What about more info on, and help for, teams to produce their own SFD branded stuff? Like info on glabels for stickers.
932 Apr 17 23:53:41 <BLUG_Fred> so next meeting we need someone else to take notes
933 Apr 17 23:54:12 <verow> thanks everybody and bfn :-)
934 Apr 17 23:54:17 <BLUG_Fred> Mike_UK: yes we need to work on promoting self production of stuff
935 Apr 17 23:54:28 <Mike_UK> good meeting. Thanks everyone.
936 Apr 17 23:54:48 <cdrigby> BLUG_Fred, Mike_UK: agreed on local production.
937 Apr 17 23:54:53 <cdrigby> Thanks all. Fun meeting!
938 Apr 17 23:55:00 <pockeylam> can we do one meeting one person?
939 Apr 17 23:55:04 <BLUG_Fred> we can pick one person per meeting for the notes
940 Apr 17 23:55:06 <pockeylam> e.g. i take note this time
941 Apr 17 23:55:06 <lumjjb> great meeting
942 Apr 17 23:55:09 <rjian> :)
943 Apr 17 23:55:13 <LeandroNunes_br> BLUG_Fred: it's a good task to meet people and have a non-tech teamwork :)
944 Apr 17 23:55:16 <lumjjb> covered a lot =)
945 Apr 17 23:55:20 <cdrigby> pokeylam: sure. I'll do notes next time.
946 Apr 17 23:55:25 <pockeylam> cdrigby, nice :)
947 Apr 17 23:55:27 <LeandroNunes_br> I agree with "self-production"
948 Apr 17 23:55:27 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, you always taking the fun jobs! ;)
949 Apr 17 23:55:34 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: thanks
950 Apr 17 23:55:52 <BLUG_Fred> we just need to keep track of who does it so we keep if fair
951 Apr 17 23:56:13 <lumjjb> btw pockey, can i get your email again
952 Apr 17 23:56:18 <lumjjb> forgot to note it down
953 Apr 17 23:56:30 <BLUG_Fred> a lot of the stuff we do easily in organizing SFD events is difficult for first timers and student specially
954 Apr 17 23:56:31 <pockeylam> lumjjb, pockey(at)softwarefreedomday(dot)org
955 Apr 17 23:56:39 <lumjjb> ok great. thanks
956 Apr 17 23:56:40 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, haha
957 Apr 17 23:56:43 <cdrigby> tech query: do we have the log of this meeting?
958 Apr 17 23:56:53 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: yes
959 Apr 17 23:56:59 <annguyen> we all have :-)
960 Apr 17 23:57:08 <LeandroNunes_br> haha :)
961 Apr 17 23:57:08 <BLUG_Fred> cdrigby: we usually upload it to the wiki
962 Apr 17 23:57:10 <annguyen> just about where to upload
963 Apr 17 23:57:13 <pockeylam> BLUG_Fred, i will post the log this time
964 Apr 17 23:57:22 <pockeylam> whoever take notes, post the log in the meeting notes :)
965 Apr 17 23:57:23 <BLUG_Fred> it goes in the meeting minute page
966 Apr 17 23:57:39 <pockeylam> i will log it here later : http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm/2011-04-17
967 Apr 17 23:57:45 <cdrigby> Cool.
968 Apr 17 23:57:50 <LeandroNunes_br> ok
969 Apr 17 23:58:02 <pockeylam> and all the meeting notes automatically log here http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/mm
970 Apr 17 23:58:11 <BLUG_Fred> well thank you everyone. This meeting is officially over
971 Apr 17 23:58:13 <rjian> agree
972 Apr 17 23:58:14 <cdrigby> ok
973 Apr 17 23:58:16 <pockeylam> thanks!
974 Apr 17 23:58:23 <BLUG_Fred> we'll meet again on May 1st at 1400UTC
975 Apr 17 23:58:29 <annguyen> good night pockeylam BLUG_Fred
976 Apr 17 23:58:31 <pockeylam> * Next meeting 1st May UTC 1400 and <cdrigby> will take note for next meeting (thanks cdrigby) :)
977 Apr 17 23:58:31 <annguyen> ok
978 Apr 17 23:58:32 <LeandroNunes_br> ok, we'll receive notifications about the new mailing lists that we are being added ?
979 Apr 17 23:58:38 <pockeylam> LeandroNunes_br, right :)
980 Apr 17 23:58:38 <annguyen> May 1st 14UTC
981 Apr 17 23:58:38 <cdrigby> Good <insert your time of day here>, everyone!
982 Apr 17 23:58:39 <BLUG_Fred> this was a really productive meeting. thanks a lot
983 Apr 17 23:58:43 <cdrigby> See you in two weeks.
984 Apr 17 23:58:44 <BLUG_Fred> LeandroNunes_br: yes
985 Apr 17 23:58:53 <pockeylam> very nice meeting guys and gals :) thank you!
986 Apr 17 23:58:54 <LeandroNunes_br> ok, right
987 Apr 17 23:58:57 <rjian> nice,,
988 Apr 17 23:59:05 <cdrigby> pokeylam: Glad to help!
989 Apr 17 23:59:08 <cdrigby> Ciao
990 Apr 17 23:59:08 <Mike_UK> thanks everyone.
991 Apr 17 23:59:10 <lumjjb> Alright, thanks guys.
992 Apr 17 23:59:11 <LeandroNunes_br> thanks!
993 Apr 17 23:59:11 <BLUG_Fred> Action items are stated clearly and it's easy to ping people for their tasks
994 Apr 17 23:59:14 <LeandroNunes_br> by
995 Apr 17 23:59:14 <annguyen> lumjjb: I'll send you an email soon :-)
996 Apr 17 23:59:16 <lumjjb> cya on the 1st
997 Apr 17 23:59:21 <annguyen> cya
998 Apr 17 23:59:27 <lumjjb> annguyen: :) cya
999 Apr 17 23:59:32 <lumjjb> good night!
1000 Apr 17 23:59:33 <LeandroNunes_br> bye
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1002 Apr 18 00:00:07 <LeandroNunes_br> nice to meet.. all!
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1004 Apr 18 00:00:12 <Mike_UK> Tschüss
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1007 Apr 18 00:01:47 <Mike_UK> pockeylam, bye. :)
1008 Apr 18 00:01:57 <pockeylam> Mike_UK, haha, bye, i m still writing notes :)
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